Is this claim of rafidaah right ,that muawiya (Ra) was a child when Prophet(SAW)died,so he can't be aSAHABI? ?

Question

One of the user ( FTL) claimed the following

" he is not a companion of the Prophet, he was still breast feeding when the PROPHET PASSED away!!!!! "

Answer 1

What is the mattar with you? The shia'a did not kill your mother.

Answer 2

وقال محمد بن سعيد الأصبهاني : ( سمعت شريكاً يقول : احمل العلم عن كل من لقيت إلا الرافضة ، فإنهم يضعون الحديث ويتخذونه ديناً )

And Muhammad bin Sa’eed al-Asbahaanee said: ((I heard Shareek (Bin Abdillaah, Qaadhee of Koofaa) saying: “Take knowledge from whoever you meet except the Raafidhah, for they fabricate hadeeth and take it as religion))

You have not quoted a single authentic sunni source here.

Imaam adh-Dhahabee mentions about Mu'aawiyyah radhiallaahu anhu:

معاوية بن أبي سفيان صخر بن حرب بن أمية بن عبد شمس بن عبد مناف بن قصي بن كلاب

Mu'aawiyyah bin Abee Sufyaan Sakhr bin Harb bin Umayyah bin 'Abd ash-Shams bin 'Abd Manaaf bin Qussayy bin Kilaab

أمير المؤمنين ملك الإسلام أبو عبد الرحمن القرشي الأموي المكي وأمه هي هند بنت عتبة بن ربيعة بن عبد شمس بن عبد مناف بن قصي

Ameer al Mu'mineen, king of Islaam, Aboo 'Abdur Rahmaan al-Qurashee al- Umawee al- Makkee, and his mother she is Hind bint 'Utbah bin Rabee'ah bin 'Abd ash-Shams bin 'Abd Mannaaf bin Qussay.

قيل إنه أسلم قبل أبيه وقت عمرة القضاء وبقي يخاف من اللحاق بالنبي صلى الله عليه وسلم من أبيه ولكن ما ظهر إسلامه إلا يوم الفتح

It is said that he accepted Islaam before his father during the time of 'Umrah al-Qadhaa and he was afraid of harm befalling the Messenger salallaahu alihi wa salam from his father but he did not openly show his Islaam until the Yawm al Fath.

Rawaafidh just never stop lying.

Imaam ash-Shaafi’ee amongst other Ulemaa stated that we should not narrate from the Raafidhah Shee’ah as they are amongst the liars as Ibn Taymiyyah reported in his Minhaaj as-Sunnah (1/59 -62):

وقال مؤمل بن إهاب سمعت يزيد بن هارون يقول يكتب عن كل صاحب بدعة إذا لم يكن داعية إلا الرافضة فإنهم يكذبون

Mu’mal Ibn Ihaab said: I heard Yazeed Bin Haaroon (d. 206H) saying, ((The narrations of every person of innovation can be written as long as he is not a caller to it, except the Raafidah, since they are liars.))

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The scholars are agreed, on the basis of reports and chains of narrators, that the Raafidah (the Shi’ah) are the most mendacious of groups and that the lies among them are ancient. Hence the imams defined them as being distinguished by the fact that they are liars.

Imam Maalik was asked about the Raafidah and he said: Do not talk to them and do not narrate from them, because they tell lies.

Imam al-Shaafa’i said: I have never seen anyone who bears false witness more than the Raafidis.

Yazeed ibn Haroon said: You can narrate from any man of innovation (bid’ah), provided that he is not active in calling others to his innovation, except al-Raafidah, because they are liars.

Umm Haram al-Ansariyah (رضي الله عنها) reported that she heard the Prophet (صلّى الله عليه وسلّم) say :

" The first army of my ummah that invades the sea then all their sins are forgiven " .

( Recorded by al-Bukhari 2924 )

Haafidh Ibn hajar said in al Fath al-Baaree (6/127) : " Muhallab said : In this hadith there is a virtue of Mu'aawiyyah, because he was the first to invade the sea " .

Tabaree reported in his history that Mu'aawiyyah (رضي الله عنه) first invaded the sea in the year 28H

Ibn Abbaas (رضي الله عنهما) reported that the Prophet (صلّى الله عليه وسلّم) told him :

" Go bring Mu'aawiyyah to Me ", because he wrote down Allaah's Revelation for the Prophet .

( Recorded by Imam Ahmad number 2651 , and verified to be authentic by Albani in Silsilah as-Saheehah 1/164 )

Ibn Taymiyyah (رحمه الله) said in Majmu' al-Fataawa 4/288 : " It is confirmed by many that Mu'aawiyyah was a faithful companion of the Prophet (صلّى الله عليه وسلّم) who wrote down Allaah's Revelation, and the Prophet (صلّى الله عليه وسلّم) did not accuse him in his writing of the Revelation . Also, the khaleefah 'Umar Bin al-Khattaab (رضي الله عنه) - who was the most experienced in knowing men - appointed Mu'aawiyyah as a ruler on the state of Sham (it includes Lebanon, Syria, Palestine and Jordan) until 'Umar's death . The khaeefah 'Uthmaan (رضي الله عنه) also kept Mu'aawiyyah in his position during his state, and neither of them accused Mu'aawiyyah in his rule " .

Ibn Qudaamah said:

ومعاوية خال المؤمنين ، وكاتب وحي الله ، أحد خلفاء المسلمين رضي الله عنهم

"And Mu'aawiyyah, the uncle of believers, scribe of Allaah's revelation, one of the Khulafaa' of the Muslims, may Allaah be pleased with them".

Source: "Lumatul itikad" p 31

Answer 3

What a silly lie! Even the Taqqiya should be used wisely---the person shouldn't get caught for lies.

Muslim narrated in his Saheeh from Ibn Abbas that Abu Sufyan asked the prophet peace be upon him for three things: (He (Abu Sufyan) said to the prophet: "O' Prophet of Allah, give me three things." The prophet said: "yes." ... Abu Sufyan said: "Mu'awiyah, make him a writer (of the revelation) under your hands." The prophet answered: "Alright.") [Muslim: with explanation. Book of "Virtues of the Companions," Chapter of "Virtues of Abu Sufyan," vol.17, p.2501

It is a firm fact that Muawiyah was a writer of the revelation (Wahi). Was he a kid? Why, even grown men in those times couldn't write!

Did the Prophet (P.B.U.H) give this serious task to a breast feeding baby?

LOL

Answer 4

u know how fun and quiet it was without all these bashing questions from both sides?

thanks for ruining the fun....as usuall  

Answer 5

dont know

Answer 6

Who are the Rafidah (the origin of the Shia)?

The first person to found this sect is ‘Abdullah son of Saba al Yahodi, a Yemeni Jew. He outwardly proclaimed to be Muslim and traveled to Madeenah during the rule of the rightly guided Khalifah Uthmaan ibn ‘Afaan, may Allah be pleased with him.

The were named ‘Rafidah” (literally meaning ‘The Rejecters’) because they rejected Zayd ibn ‘Alee after requesting him to free himself from Abu Bakr and Umar, the first and second rulers in Islam after the death of the final Messenger, may Salaat and Salaam be upon him. Upon hearing their request, he asked Allaah to have mercy on the two deceased leaders.

They said: ‘Therefore we will reject you.”

He responded: ‘Leave, for you are ‘Ar Rafidah’ – ‘the rejectors’.

Al Dhahabee, a renowned scholar and historian of the 8th Islamic century (14th Gregorian century) stated:

The Rafidah approached Zayd and said: ‘Free yourself of Abu Bakr and ‘Umar and we shall support you.’

He replied: ‘Rather I shall support them.’

They said: ‘Therefore we reject you!’

They were then known as the Rafidah.

Shaykh al Islam ibn Taymiyah mentions in Majmoo’ al Fatawa:

Imam Ahmad was asked: ‘Who are the Rafidah?’

He said: ‘Those who vilify Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, they rejected Zayd ibn ‘Alee due to their hatred of the two when he showed support for them, so whoever shows hatred of Abu Bakr and ‘Umar is from the Rafidah. It is also said that they were named ‘Rafidah’ due to their rejection of Abu Bakr and ‘Umar.’

Shaykh al Islam said: ‘The origin of the Rafidah are hypocrites, it was ‘Abdullah ibn Saba the hypocrite who innovated this sect, he then practiced extremism towards ‘Alee ibn Abee Taalib by stating that he was the only rightful leader of the Muslims among other things.’

Shaykh al Islam mentioned elsewhere: The founder of the Rafidah is none other than ‘Abullah ibn Saba the hypocrite, he outwardly proclaimed to be Muslim while concealing his Jewish faith, his intention was to corrupt the religion of Islam just as Bolis the Christian did with Christianity, he was in reality a Jew who embraced Christianity with the intention of corrupting it.

Ibn Abee al ‘Izz states in his explanation of ‘Al ‘Aqeedah at Tahawiyah”:

The founder of the Rafidah is a hypocrite who embraced Islam with the intention of destroying it and accusing the final Messenger of Allah, may Salaat and Salaam be upon him. ‘Abdullah ibn Saba was a Jew who only proclaimed to be Muslim in order to corrupt the religion of Islam with his vile evil plots, just as Bolis did with Christianity. He outwardly practiced Islam, started ordering people with good and forbidding them from evil and eventually plotted the murder of ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Afaan and the turmoil that was caused due to it. He then traveled to Kufah and practiced extremism towards ‘Alee ibn Abi Talib and showed support for him in order to further his personal agenda. When ‘Alee was informed of this he ordered his execution, but he managed to escape to Qarqays, his biography is well known in Islamic history.