Is this how Democrats show concern for raped children?

Question

"Dem pledges: I'll 'rip apart' child-rape victims on stand

'I'm going to make sure rest of their life is ruined'

This spoken by Democrat representative James Fagan of Massachusett.

Answer 1

Ok, first, stop watching/reading Fox News. Second, don't rely on sound bites to tell you the whole story. If you actually knew the context of James Fagan's words, you would understand that he DOESN'T want rape victims to be put on the stand and ripped apart by defense attorneys.

From: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?ar...

Democratic Representative James Fagan was in the Massachusetts State House yesterday railing against Jessica's Law, which would mandate 20-year sentence for rape of a child under 12. As a defense attorney he took offense to the idea that someone convicted or raping a young child should have a mandatory sentence imposed on them, arguing it would force him to attack the little girl in order to defend his client:

“Let me tell you why it's so wrong, It's so wrong because in these situations . . . that 6-year-old is going to sit in front of me, or somebody far worse than me and I'm going to rip them apart. I'm going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined. That when they're 8 years old they throw up; when they're 12 years old, they won't sleep. When they're 19 years old they'll have nightmares and they'll never have a relationship with anybody. And that's not because I'm a nice guy. That's because when you're in court, and you're defending somebody's liberty, and you're facing a mandatory sentence of those draconian proportions, you have to do every single thing you can do on behalf of your client. That is your obligation as a trial lawyer."

Answer 2

No, that is how defense attorneys show concern for their clients. If they are hired to defend a person against the word of a child who has allegedly been sexually abused, an attorney has to try and prove their client's innocence. Sad, yes, but it is also very true.

Answer 3

hummmmm  just a sample of what some of these  demo  really think, defense attorney or not or looking for the best interest of his client is the biggest BS ever heard....he spoke his mind and that is enough, I hope he gets the punish he deserves...........burn in h**l

Answer 4

How would you feel if it was your child?

You have twisted what he said, he said no such thing, if he did, it would be front page headlines.

Child rapists deserve everything thrown at them.

Repugs will say the same thing.

Your partisanship is showing

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Liberal and damned proud of it.

Obama 08

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EDIT

What he said was this, and he was 100% correct -- it would put the children in danger of being ripped apart on the stand.

The post took what he said out of context.

http://constitutionallyright.com/2008/06...

“Let me tell you why it’s so wrong, It’s so wrong because in these situations . . . that 6-year-old is going to sit in front of me, or somebody far worse than me and I’m going to rip them apart. I’m going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined. That when they’re 8 years old they throw up; when they’re 12 years old, they won’t sleep. When they’re 19 years old they’ll have nightmares and they’ll never have a relationship with anybody. And that’s not because I’m a nice guy. That’s because when you’re in court, and you’re defending somebody’s liberty, and you’re facing a mandatory sentence of those draconian proportions, you have to do every single thing you can do on behalf of your client. That is your obligation as a trial lawyer.”

That is how our justice system works, that everyone deserves the right of equal representation.

Hey I don't like anymore then everyone else here.  Fagan also points out why I couldn't be a trail lawyer, because I would have to defend to the best of my ability, scumbags that I knew were guilty as h**l.

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Life is so simple, but we insist on making it complicated

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Peace

Jim

Answer 5

Yes.  Democrats hate children and support rape.

Did you read the article, or just the first paragraph?  I'm sure it's difficult for you to read that much.  He is expressing the concerns of a criminal defense attorney.  The attorney has a duty to protect his client, no matter what the client is charged with.  The harsher the penalty, the more brutal the attorney may have to be.  

This whole "won't someone think of the children???" attitude presents the defendant's guilt as a foregone conclusion.  Anyone who believes that someone CHARGED with a crime should be punished needs to get out of America.

He spoke too candidly, and presented himself as boorish.  However, his point is a legitimate response to harsher mandatory sentences for any crime.

His comments do not reflect the sentiment of the Democratic party.

EDIT:  Yes, actually, for the same reason the Supreme Court opposes the death penalty for rape (children or otherwise) so do I.  What I would do if it were my children is irrelevant - the victim's craving for vengeance should never dictate justice.  Also, I am not siding with the attorney and his rapist client, I am addressing the truth that you don't seem to see:  The attorney has an ACCUSED client, not a rapist client.  The "victim" may be lying, confused, or wrong.  The attorney has a responsibility to show that.  The accused is not guilty of anything until convicted.  Such is our justice system, and anyone who supports the death penalty for anything without understanding that has innocent blood on their hands.

And, again, to address your original question:  Child rape and the punishment therefore is not a political issue, and you should be ashamed for trying to make it one.

Answer 6

Wow, pretty over the top don't ya think?

Answer 7

He's a scumbag who should just burn in h**l.  Democrats are extremely hypocritical in their beliefs.  Democrats have been holding minorities down since civil rights and simply use them for votes but never do anything to improve their status.   The biggest scam in our country is the false belief that democrats look out for the little guy (poor, minorities, etc.)

Answer 8

Another reason to vote Republican?

Answer 9

I read your link, and I am shocked and amazed!

Answer 10

Yes it is sad. Many States had capitol punishment already in place for these creeps and now 4 left wing judges and 1 dumb *** right winged judge overturned this.  Sad.

But on the bright side maybe we could fight for a law requiring they serve their sentence in the general population our prisons. I guarantee that will be like a death sentence.

Answer 11

He's a scummy lawyer who will do anything to get his client "off."

What a surprise. He would even go after a child victim on the stand and tear him or her apart. I hope this piece of c**p has no kids.

It always makes me wonder why liberal judges and lawyers always want to help get pedophiles "off."

It kind of makes one wonder.

Answer 12

The people of Massachusette deserve what they elected.  This guy is a grade A dirtball.

Answer 13

Doesn't it make you feel all warm and fuzzy when a skirt chasing boozing democratic politician speaks of the terrible tongue lashing the rapist is going to get?  Not to worry though; I have a friend who is a guard captain at the state prison who told me that child rapists have to be segregated under guard at all times to keep the general population from killing them (but sometimes they slip up and take a coffee break; the guards).

Answer 14

Don't pretend that this s*****k represents all Democrats. This guy is an a*****e.

Answer 15

yes...some think it's okay to hurt a child, but touch a freaking animal and it's off with your head...they are just screwed up

Answer 16

Compared that to Republican congressmen actually raping children, pretty mild.

PS: Why are Republicans outraged when ******* like this speaks his brains out, but when their colleagues rape children they dont say anything? Hypocrisy? You bet!

Answer 17

If he actually said this, he needs to be out of office as soon as possible. A child rape victim has already had his/her life "ripped apart". Anyone that would add to that is beneath contempt.

Answer 18

"...mandatory minimum sentences of 10 to 15 years for crimes against children."  First problem is mandatory minimum.  This has been tried with drug offenses and was an abysmal failure.  Second point is, this casts a pretty broad net.  The article didn't say WHAT crimes against children and some are worthy of lengthy prison time--but certainly not all.  Third is the fact that some teens have been sentenced to prison and required to register as s*x offenders when the offense was only a year or two beyond what the law stipulates; otherwise they were doing the same thing that others in their age group were also doing, which behavior I don't have to agree with in order to find that sort of punishment draconian.

That said, I don't think that anyone with such poor judgement should hold an elected position.  This must be an example of cronyism at work.

Answer 19

Not all Democrats are that evil, but the liberal ones are. Remember they vote to allow the murder of unborn babies, so ruining lives is mild compared to that. James Fagan will vote for Obama. I will vote for McCain.

Answer 20

Perhaps he is a paedophile as well, who else would defend a child rapist and make such insensitive statements like this?