Is this the "great nascar nationwide engine compromise"?

Question

it seems the R07 hasn't been approved for the nns due to costs and jack roush. more important, the new restrictor plate rule seems to be an attempt to allow chevy nns teams that can afford it to use the R07 and teams that can't (or who don't have a new engine) to keep what they've got.

briefly, nascar forced toyota to build a new engine, and they did - one without any technological or financial baggage. there were no toyota teams with old engines and parts that would incur big costs by switching.

chevy built the R07 "from scratch" and had no technological baggage, but had many teams who could not afford to scrap their SB2 engines and parts and buy the more expensive R07.

ford and dodge teams have no new engines in the works and jack roush and ford fought the R07 to avoid the expense.

for more info check out my answer here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjvQDeBQgaoYHVt6slxY7jd3xQt.;_ylv=3?qid=20080724182015AAzng7e

do you now think the new rule is a good compromise?

Answer 1

Thanks for the info. I will study up on this. I believe though that the more NASCAR messes around, in the name of cost and safety, the closer they get to creating a kind of IROC car. In the end it will be the teams with big wallets and deep pockets that still have the advantage and the very minute one manifacturer finds an advantage the rest will cry foul and NASCAR will again change it.

On a sarcastic note: Maybe Toyotas radio controlled car commercial is not all that far fetched, only instead of kids controlling them it will be the board of directors at NASCAR.

Answer 2

Let me say this. I am very impressed with your answer to the question. I can tell you did your homework on it. It covers all the facts that I have been trying to say all alone.

I do not disagree with a single thing that you posted and I definitely wasn't trying to bash Kyle with my previous questions. Just stating the facts.

HOWEVER....

I still haven't seen anything where they have allowed the new engine yet. The spacing rules does seem to imply that it could be legal but the engines are still unapproved. I think that's because of Dodge and Ford hasn't presented an updated engine also.

Like you said NASCAR did the only thing they could do in order to level the field without forcing the existing teams to make changes which was the whole bases for some of my previous questions that I asked. It sucks for each manufacturer. It also creates controversy between fans but NASCAR is to blame and not some fan that posts question here.

Under the circumstances all we can do is agree with the rule. Let me say it again. You did a fantastic job at researching the information. I am impressed.

Thanks

Answer 3

Great question, and info - Thanks.

I don't like the idea of NASCAR and Mike "I'm not fat" Helton being "at the controls".

Yes, safety for the drivers, crew and fans should always come first.

NO, they should not be that involved in the "under the hood" area. Especially since I doubt that 99% of the NASCAR officials have ever even changed their own oil, much less built and raced a car.

Let the mechanics do what they do best, run fast.

Answer 4

The more NASCAR messes around the more boring the races get  NASCAR roots come from the "good old boys" finding the extra horsepower and doing what ever it took to out run who ever. You where not pentilized for getting the most from less.  People who are happy about this rule better believe one thing  NASCAR will be JAPCAR  if na$car dosen't go back to it's roots

Answer 5

yeah -if they start running these this weekend

Answer 6

I have to agree with A Few Too Many on this one.

Answer 7

Just give them the R07 engine to shut up all the whiners.

I swear, I could walk into a daycare center in Anytown USA, and hear less crying than what I've been reading on here about the engines of the Toyota's having an advantage, and that they shot down the R07 engine for the Chevy teams.

It does seem like a bit of a double standard though, and I didn't realize Roush had anything to do with it.(figures)

It's getting old, it's getting tiresome, it's getting to the point that pretty soon nascar will have 43 of the EXACT same cars on the track, not one single difference between them.

Yeah, that's make for an exciting race!!

I seem to recall last year they said something about the Busch series Chevy's could use the Briggs and Stratton(I think that's what it's called) engine package, it would've allowed 5 extra HP. I don't know if any of them did or not. If they did, what's all the bitchin' about? They got extra HP, too. If not, again, what's the bitchin' about? They could've had extra HP and chose not to.

Answer 8

Yes, it may well be a good compromise, but it sets a precedent! I understand all you've written and agree that it was a compromise.

Now, every time any manufacturer gets an advantage they will use a plate to compensate for it. Next look for Nascar to mandate a plate for each individual team and then a plate for each individual car! This in turn will lead to a spec engine for everyone! The EOT! I know this sounds like it can't happen, but the way Nascar has been moving for years is toward an IROC type car! This is just one of the small steps in that direction! Ask yourself this, 10 years ago would you have thought the COT was a possibility?

PEACE!