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Ghulam Mirza insulting Jesus Christ P-B-U-H

"(Jesus) had the habit of uttering obscenities and frequently using foul language." (Zamima Anjam-e-Atham, Roohani Khazain , Vol 11 p.289 )

"It should be remembered that he (Jesus) had also to some extent the habit of lying." (Zamima Anjam Atham, Roohani Khazain Vol 11 p. 289)

"A cunning and wicked (person) who had the soul of the Messiah from head to toe." (Zamimah Anjam Atham, Roohani Khazain Vol 11 p. 289)

"What is your opinion about the character of the Messiah? (it is that Jesus ) was an Alcoholic and Gluttonous person, neither Abstinent nor a Pious Worshipper, nor a Truth seeker. He was a Proud and a Self- conceited Claimant of Divinity." (Nur-ul-Quran, Roohani Khazain Vol 9 p.387)

"The root cause of all the damage that alcohol consumption has had on the Europeans was that Jesus used to drink alcohol, perhaps because of some disease or an old habit." (Kashti-e-Nooh, Roohani Khazain vol 19 p.71)

"Once a friend advised me that opium is good for diabetes so there is no harm in taking opium for the purpose of treatment. I replied , thank you very much for your sympathetic advice. But if I get into the habit taking opium I am afraid the people will mock that the first Messiah (Jesus) was an alcoholic and the second a drug addict." (Kashti-e-Nooh, Roohani Khazain vol 19 p.434)

HE WAS CALLING JESUS CHRIST P-B-U-H AS A DRUG ADDICT.

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  1. As if it is not insulting enough that this man claims to be the Messiah, now he is insulting our beloved Savior.  No where in the bible does it say such disgusting things about Jesus and I would encourage anyone who believes it does to quote scripture and verse so I can prove them a liar.  Why on earth would Christian besmirch the name of our Lord.  He was nothing like this and it is blasphemy to say He was.


  2. I feel proud that as a Sunni there is no one that we insult/curse or abuse in our religion! no one at all!

    (of course I am not talking about my mouth lol I am talking about real Islam! Sunnizim)

  3. Hey may be he was talking about himself? The guy has to be high on something to think that he was a prophet....he claimed to be  the messih and the mahdi in one.

  4. Salam bro,

    1qfactor answered the exact same question somewhere last week. He explained in detail there how Ahmad showed how the bible described Jesus.

    If you want to know it in detail, there's a whole booklet about it (63 pages) which you can read for yourself here:

    http://www.alislam.org/library/books/ref...

    Peace.


  5. Mirza's language is disgracefull according to ordinary human morals let alone of the level of some one inspired by Allah (swt)

    First Qadyani send his Mureed (like sunflower) ,then he comes with some illogocal interpretations.He might be contacting His BOSS

    so bro Waqqas dont lose hope  !!!!!!

  6. insulting a prophet is kufr

    calling yourself a prophet is greater kufr

    This guy is a real dajjal -one of the biggest kafirs ever

  7. Ahmadis hold Jesus (pbuh), in high esteem

  8. Actually brother Waqas, I would most humbly suggest, as I did last time you posted these types of quotes, that you do the reading yourself.  I keep reminding you, all people like Trooper etc do is copy/paste one verse from the Qur'an and call Islam a violent religion.

    Do not be like them brother, you are better than that.

    In any case, I have already answered this question and briefly I will answer it again.

    Hazrat Ahmad (as) was not alone in writing this about Hazrat Isa (as).  during his time about 120 years ago, Islam was being attacked from all over.  Christianity had declared that 1,000,000 Muslims had been converted to Christianity from Islam.

    They had done so by slandering the Prophet Muhammad (sa) and saying horrible things about him, all lies.  The layman Muslims were impressed by this.  Then the Christians would tell them, that your "horrible" Prophet is dead and in the ground, while our perfect Jessu (as) is alive and in the heavens.  So who do you think God loves more?  Of course, to them it made sense that (naduhobillah) Allah loved Isa (as) more.  By the logic the Christians proposed, it made sense.

    Hence Hazrat Ahmad (as) wrote that while he had no desire to say anything negative about Jesus (as) as Jesus (as) was a true Prophet of God and sinless, the Christians left him no choice.  Therefore, Hazrat Ahmad (as) used the very Book of the Christians, the Bible, to show that Christians Themselves teach all these horrible disgusting things about Hazrat Isa (as).  He made very clear that he does not beleive these things, but to defend the Honor of the Prophet (sa) and the truth of Islam, he had to show the deceiving nature of the Christians by using their own books against them.

    And you find flaw with this?

    Here is what Hazrat Ahmad (as) has actually written about Jesus (as).

    “We inform our readers that our belief concerning

    Jesus is extremely noble. We most sincerely believe

    that he was a true prophet of Allah, and He loved him.

    As the Holy Qur’an tells us, we hold firm faith that he

    most sincerely believed in our lord and master prophet

    Muhammad Mustafa (may peace and blessings of

    Allah be on him) for his salvation, and that he was one

    of the hundreds of obedient servants of the Law of

    Moses. Therefore, we hold a great esteem for him in

    accordance with his exalted status.”

    (Nur-ul-Qur’an, Part 2, Ruhani Khaza’in, Vol. 9, p. 374.)

    EDIT:

    @WAQAS - I already explained that brother.  He said he did NOT want to do this, but because of the insults Christians were launching at MUhammad (sa), to protect the honor of Muhammad (sa), he was forced to use the Christians books against them.  This was to show the Muslims who had left Islam how flawed their new book really was, and how disgusting their new book really was.  When they came back to Islam, he was able to show them the Beauties of Muhammad (sa) and Isa (as) from the perfect Holy Qur'an.

    Also, remember he wasn't the only one doing this, even those who were his enemies did this because they too realized this was the best way to bring those Muslims back to Islam.

    Furthermore, as I quoted above, Hazrat Ahmad (as) did honor and respect Jesus (as) as a true and perfect Prophet of God.

    love for all, hatred for none

  9. At last theq1factor has taken the sip and tried to answer,

    he admits he said those things,

    why ??

    Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) went through the same situation,did he use that language??also he claimed to be better than Muhammad(pbuh),

    this clearly disproves his prophethood,

    Secondly,every single authentic Hadith tells that Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) is the last and final Messanger,

    do u expect me to throw al those AUTHENTIC Hadiths and join Mirza???

    God has bestowed upon me six favors which the former Prophets did not enjoy:

    *I have been endowed with the gift of pithy and perfect speech.

        

    *I was granted victory owing to my awe.

    *The spoils of war were made lawful unto me.

    *The whole earth has been made the place of worship for me and it has become the means of purification for me also. In other words, in my religion, offering of prayers is not confined to certain specified places of worship. Prayers can be offered at any place over the earth. And in case water is not available, it is lawful for my people to perform ablutions with earth (Tayammum) and to cleanse themselves with the soil, if water for bathing is scarce.

    *I have been sent by Allah to carry His Divine message to the whole world.

    * And the line of prophets has come to its final end in me.

          (Muslim, Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah)

    I am Muhammad, I am Ahmad, I am the effacer and infidelity shall be erased through me; I am the assembler. People shall be assembled on Doomsday after my time. And I am the last in the sense that no prophet shall succeed me.

    (Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, Muatta')

    You (Hazrat Ali) are related to me as Aaron was related to Moses (pbuh). But no Apostle will come after me.

    (Bukhari, Muslim

    Musnad recorded a similar hadith ending in 'Behold there is no prophethood after me.')

    If ever there arose a person from among my people who would hold communion with God, it would be none else but 'Umar bin Khattab.

    (Bukhari , Muslim, Tirmidhi)

    We are the last (ummah) but will precede all on the Day of Resurrection except that the Book was given to them before us.

    (Bukhari, Muslim)

    The tribe of Israel was guided by prophets. When a prophet passed away, another prophet succeeded him. But no prophet will come after me; only caliphs will succeed me.

    (Bukhari)

    I am the last in line of the prophets of God and my Masjid is the last Masjid.

    (Muslim)

    The chain of Messengers and Prophets has come to an end. There shall be no Messenger nor Prophet after me.

    (Tirmidhi, Musnad Ahmad, Anas bin Malik)

    There will arise thirty impostors in my Ummah and each one of them will pronounce to the world that he is a prophet, but I am the last in the line of the Prophets of God and no Prophet will come after me.

    (Abu Dawood, Tirmizi)

    Allah will send no Apostle after me, but only Mubashshirat (Good vision or pious vision).

    (Musnad Ahmad, Abu Tufail, Nasa'i, Abu Dawud)

    No Prophet will come after me and there will, therefore, be no other community of followers of any new Prophet.

    (Baihaqi, Tabarani)

    God Almighty hath sent unto the world no apostle who did not warn his people about the appearance of Dajjal (Anti-Christ, but Dajjal did not appear in their time). I am the last in the line of Prophets and you are the last community of believers. Without doubt, then, Dajjal shall appear from amongst you.

    (Ibn Majah)

    I am Muhammad, the unlettered prophet of Allah. I am Muhammad, the unlettered prophet of Allah. I am Muhammad, the unlettered prophet of Allah. There will be no prophet after me.

    (Musnad Ahmad)

    Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.

    (The Holy Quran, Al-Ahzab 33:40)


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  11. salam alaykum.

    he degraded other prophets and Allah degraded him. he died in the toilet with his face tugged in stool.

    1qfactor:'no he died a normal death and those who make fun of the prophets of Allah will have the vein of life cut ' abu lahab did not die like that. he had a normal death. he wasn't killed.

    they have no expl.

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