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Is this true about Soy? I was just researching it and this is what i came across.?

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7. Anything made with Soy

Why is it good? It’s not. But in the spirit of argument: vegetarians and vegans eat the stuff so they can get protein in their diets. Yay ::sarcasm:: Plus the stuff is apparently low in fat and an alternative to whey for the lactose intolerant.

Why is it bad? Straight up, soy is linked to lower testosterone and increased estrogen in males, and is also linked to increased breast cancer in women. Soy also promotes hypothyroidism, thyroid cancer, and infertility just to name a few additional disorders. Phytic acid, trypsin inhibitors, toxic lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines are all highly present in soy products. Infants in particular can be adversely affected in many negative ways from exposure to soy, including premature development in girls, and underdevelopment in boys. Some people also are allergic to soy protein.

Instead choose: any high protein whole food such as brown rice, goats milk, coconut milk, almond milk, whole grains, nuts, seaweeds, seeds, beans, and lentils. If you must have a protein powder, choose any of a variety of protein powders available on the market today, including whey and egg protein. As a side note, goats milk is considered one of the healthiest foods on the planet today, so give it a try.

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  1. Not true. As long as what your eating contains soybeans that were not genetically modified, its healthy. Still, don't depend on it as your only source of protein.


  2. Skip the soy, it makes me f**t like a race horse.

    Just eat beans and dark rice to get your protein.

    What the blazes?

    One study says it prevents cancer and the other says it causes it?

    Why can't people make up their minds?

  3. with soy i think u need to weight up the pros against the cons and decide for yourself. ive done a fair bit of research on it over the years and i decided to stop using soy except for tamari occassionally. Soy has some definate health benefits, and also definate problems. from my experience, i had menstrual problems where it was real messed up, soon as i got off soy it went to normal and i finally got pregnant after ages, also my daughter developed severe allergies when she was 3 months old which i believe is related to putting her on soy formula at 3 months. however others dont seem to have any problems. my husbands migraines he had for about 14 years chronically stopped and never returned

  4. There's evidence that links soy ISOLATES to adverse health, not soy in natural/minimally processed forms.

    Furthermore, those soy isolates are used in myriads of PROCESSED FOODS, and usually not in soy foods like tofu, tempeh, and soy milks.

  5. Hello, everyone! :)

    First, I think my English is basic, so I apologize now. :)

    Well, unfortunately, I think and believe it might be mostly true, but there's no “definitive” conclusion… I don't know, but the following might be helpful.

    But, please, read this well:

    As mockingbird said, “There are cultures that have eaten soy for centuries”… yes; as far as I know, ONLY food made of FERMENTED ORGANIC SOY; that's what those peoples have been eating maybe for a millennial time, and that kind of food should be very very beneficial for the humankind and the planet as well. That food would be, i.e., miso, tempeh, etc.

    I quote: “Only after a long period of fermentation (as in the creation of miso or tempeh) are the phytate and "antinutrient" levels of soybeans reduced, making their nourishment available to the human digestive system. The high levels of harmful substances remaining in precipitated soy products leave their nutritional value questionable at best, and in the least, potentially harmful.”

    ( http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl... )

    I believe Dr. Mercola's website is a great source of information on health issues, but, one must be careful because (among other things), if I understand it well, Dr. Mercola has an opinion against veg(etaria)nism. According to him, he also eats organic raw meat… I think: A kind of ‘healthy terrible’ thing. :(

    Anyway, about soy, I do eat (because of money issues, because I like the flavor, and other reasons) food made with not fermented and not organic soy, but once or two times in a month. So, in this way I hope (it is not a scientific conclusion) I will obtain nutrition and very little (if any) damaging effect.

    And, talking about scientific studies, in a vegan website (“Scientifically-Credible Information on Vegan and Vegetarian Diets”), there would be “Scientifically-Credible Information” about soy in the page ( http://ecologos.org/ttdd.html ); in that page look for the title “Links on the hazards of eating soy:”. Information in that website doesn't support eating meat, and neither dairy nor eggs (I think the whole website is a REALLY great great source!).

    I believe the former website has accurate and comprehensive information, although I'm “ovo-lacto-vegetarian”.

    So, please, I beg you, at least, DON'T EAT any kind of meat. Be a veg(etari)an. :)

    Nowadays in this world, because of the exploitation and terrible cruelty towards non-human animals (and, in some cases, humans too), the best choice should be not consuming dairy nor eggs; but probably this kind of products are not intrinsically bad for human food, instead, they should be ONLY really organic, from “free-range” animals, and the like, and NOT pasteurized (the way human milk is). Some of the (I think) best info about non human milk: http://realmilk.com/index.html

    Beware: I think that in that website, they DO NOT HAVE the best information about veg(etarian)ism, and they are against vegetarianism or, at least, veganism.

    A place, in the USA, for that very special kind of dairy (I wish all dairy in the world seemed like this and even better): http://organicpastures.com/index.html

    About that kind of eggs: http://www.motherearthnews.com/Real-Food...

    Still, about dairy and eggs, please consider this: http://veganpeace.com/organic/organic_me...

    About my situation: Unfortunately, most of soy in Argentina is transgenic, and I'm still looking the kind of dairy I told (there are organic dairy but not unpasteurized; and there's those eggs but, aprox., 230 km south from here), and I'm pretty sure that when I have founded (if so) that kind of products, my family won't have enough money to only consume that kind of products. I think that if that kind of production was to replace the standard ones, then organic products should be cheaper, and the world a better place.

    Finally, a long and complex issue, but I'll say: The human soul must regenerate its mind in order to regenerate the human heart, and this process will voluntarily vanish (at least) much pain and suffering; and so, Capitalism, and any market economy —systems which (I and many others think) are intrinsically exploitative towards humans and the entire nature— will disappear too. I believe we must return to a “companionship state” with nature.

    Well, with this I'm sharing some of the results of many days and many nights of searching in the web, and thinking, so I hope this information be useful. :)

    Be well, people!! :)

    (Sorry about any errors, and about my English.)

    P.S.: I think we must consider what veggie-wedgie stated in here, I don't remember reading about what she said.

  6. Soy in moderation is fine. The health concerns and estrogen/soy milk rumor is a conspiracy propagated by the dairy industry. There is alot more pesticides, antibiotics and hormones injected into dairy cows to increase production. I would enjoy the soy milk, I don't think there's any thing to worry about.

  7. Well the language of the quote makes it clear it isn't from a scientific study, most of which do not include expressions like 'yay :: sarcasm::' and 'straight up'.

    Soya proteins contain isoflavones that can mimic a weak oestrogen effect. It's not the same as the oestrogen the body makes though - it is 1,000 times weaker than the body's oestrogen. There are other plants that contain oestrogen too.

    There is NO scientific evidence that soya causes, prevents, contributes to or affects the progress of cancer, including oestrogen positive breast cancer, which is the one most often cited, though there are concerns. There are also those in the field who argue that isoflavones may be of help in preventing breast cancer or be beneficial to women who have had breast cancer.

    There is current research into whether increasing phyto oestrogens in the diet helps to prevent breast or prostate cancer, and a study in 2002 found that women with the highest levels of soya products in their diets had the lowest breast density. Higher breast density is associated with higher breast cancer risk.

    Women with the highest levels of isoflavones in their diet are reported to have significant risk reductions for uterine cancer.

    And there is also no evidence that it leads to increased oestrogen in males, or lowered testosterone or underdevelopment. This is hearsay; as far as I'm aware, none of the people who claim that this is the case have so far produced a man thus affected as proof.

    Take a look at the men featured on these sites: all vegan, and for many  of them soya will be a large part of their diets. No sign of low testosterone there!

    http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/

    http://www.veganfitness.net/

    On the balance of evidence, I'd say keep eating the soya.

  8. Although because of how many people are on this planet, who might react to soy products in uncommon ways, those things about soy are UNTRUE except for the part about being allergic to soy, which is true, although there are people who are allergic to all those foods listed at the bottom as well. If any of those other "negative effects" are true at all, they are certainly not common, and might not even pertain to more than a few cases (out of a population of 6 billion.)

    And the part about the infants: Infants should drink breastmilk as a first choice before using a formula, and might only be affected if they are sensitive to it. (My younger brother drank mostly Soy Formula as a baby and grew up fine, with an IQ of 140 and no other health problems that we know of)

    I have been a vegetarian for my entire life, and I eat soy products nearly every day. But for each different person is a diet that they can be healthy with, based on things like allergies and other health problems, and, because of these things, of course soy isn't for everyone. But really, since everyone is different, there isn't really a food that IS right for everyone.

    Hope this helps with your research.

  9. That is clearly not quoted from anything remotely resembling a scientific study.  Do some real research and you'll find most of it is in favor of eating soy in moderate amounts.  I'm talking about looking up studies on pubmed, not googling it and reading whatever comes up.  There are cultures that have eaten soy for centuries; there's a lot of data backing up the healthfulness of it.  Including studies showing that it's linked to *decreased* breast cancer in women.

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