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Is torture ever justified?

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  1. Absolutely!  

    Look how many witches were discovered in Salem, MA through torture.

    If I remember correctly, everyone they tortured, confessed to being a witch.

    I'll bet if we tortured people today, to see if they were witches, we would find LOTS of witches.

    EDIT:  I see a couple of people have trotted out the old "one in a million" where the guy with bombs placed EVERYWHERE falls into the hands of the police, admits to having planted bombs EVERYWHERE, tells the cops how much damage to expect, and then . . . [drum roll, please] . . . absolutely WILL NOT HELP stop the carnage.

    Seems a little far-fetched.


  2. NO !

    It is evil...Illegal....despite being used by one so called "super power."

  3. Depends if your the one being tortured?

    I'd love to say that not under any circumstances and be moral etc but depends why and who side your on.  It was done in both world wars and you just don't know what information was retrieved and if it had bearings on us winning the war - who knows?  It might well be that we'd all be n**i's had it not been for some torture victim, u just don't know?

  4. Let us shout from the roof tops, NO!

    Firstly because it is not nice.

    Secondly because it has problems.

    If employed as originally to punish wrong doers, you may have the wrong guy.  

    If employed to obtain information it is ineffective, imagine someone has applied electrodes to your rude bits and is demanding to know what you have done with Maddie?  pretty soon you are going to tell your oppressors to look behind the second hacienda on the right.

    Thirdly, torture is so abhorrent to most people that they begin to worry about what torture actually is.  Devlin, thought the British Army was torturing IRA suspects by subjecting them to a process of disorientation.  Devlin of Irish extraction, was silent with regard to the tactics of the IRA.

  5. Nope, but when practised by the US, it's called persuasion.

  6. Only to Neil Young

  7. Well how can anyone justify torture since we know that every one has a breaking point. Once broken they will sing like a canary and sing to any tune you want them to. So is that what we in so called society want? We certainly don`t need it.

  8. as evil as it may seem pain is the best way of getting things out of people. and if that information saves lives then that justifies it.

    if not its a good way of making people less likely of doing something evil.  

  9. It's a means to an end.

    I personally believe the end justifies the means.

    Lets say a man put an atomic bomb inside a popular American stadium, to go off during an extremely busy sporting event. What if the authorities caught him and needed to know where the bomb was? I would justify torturing him to save 100,000 lives. I would justify torturing a terrorist to save 1 innocent life.

    So my answer is, Yes.

  10. No.

  11. Yes - it should be reserved for terrorists, paedos/rapists and killers.

    Then they should be executed. No point having people like that on earth.

  12. No!

  13. NO! Kill if must, but torture is the way of the bully and has no justification.

  14. I'm with THE REAL DAN C on this one.  Is it more or less moral to let 100,000 people die when you have the means at hand to save their lives?  Would YOU allow all those innocent lives to be lost when you have the means and methods to save them?  If you LET them die because you're busy riding your moral high horse, then who is the more evil?  The torturer or the dignified moral character standing there with hands in pockets doing nothing.  For me - any torture on a terrorist douche that saves one American kid a blown off foot is worth weeks of torture - s***w your moral standards!  Those American boys and girls didn't volunteer to die and get blown up, they volunteered to protect us from terrorists - so if I can spend the weekend torturing one of those dirt bags and save an American.... all I can say is give me another bucket of water and some bungee cord!

  15. Torture by all means is wrong . I don't know what justification can be given to using the awareness of a human to inflict pain and suffering on another human . Animal predators don't know how to inflict pain , but they know that the screams of pain are good signs ,  that means they can start eating . And means when we do that to people we are going beyond animalism .

    I think that punishment should come from the guilt . So , if somebody was caught torturing people whatever the justification is should be put to the same torture means he used and i believe who ordered him should have the same punishment .


  16. Of course not; unless it is used by the CIA, or the Mossad.

  17. I torture my husband daily, he seems to enjoy it.  

    But seriously I don't believe there could be any justification in torture.  

  18. No. It is a barbaric form of torture.

  19. whatever turns you on baby.....

  20. two rights dont make a wrong

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    doh...other way round..haha

  21. No! never ever.

  22. It simply doesn't work. People will say anything when they are tortured. John McCain confessed to being an American spy when he was tortured by the Cong. There is no defense for torture.

  23. No.   It degrades both victim & perpetrator....and rarely gets positive results  (People will own up to anything under torture)

  24. If you are talking about waterboarding, i think it puts the yanks at the same level as some of the governments they want to overthrow.  

  25. No but yes. Let's say someone new where Maddie was but wouldn't tell then yes.  
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