Is wanting a warrant with COURT OVERSIGHT and "being against wiretapping" two TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS?

Question

I really don't know ANYONE who is against wiretapping as long as there is a warrant with court oversight.

I mean 72 hours is not unrealistic is it? Unless it means that there are other reasons for the wiretapping.

Answer 1

Yes.  And there are also long settled exceptions to warrant requirments in true emergencies (hot pursuit type situations) with probable cause.

A whim by the executive branch as they cruise the internet doesn't qualify.

Thousands of people who were not terrorist suspects were shown in Congressional hearings to have had their privacy improperly managed.  They say these things are for terrorists (which still only means 'suspected' terrorists) but once they have the ability, it seems just too tempting for them.

Answer 2

"who are we to say if it is wrong or not it is up to the situation all on it self." WE ARE THE PEOPLE, THAT'S WHO! THE GOVERNMENT WORKS FOR US! WHY HAS EVERYONE FORGOTTEN THIS???

OMFG!!!

America is a Republic, folks. Go live in a monarchy if you don't like having to think for yourself.

Yes, it's two totally different things. It's about simply following the basic laws that were set up to protect us.

"Why would we need laws to protect us from our government, isn't our government is loving and good and trustworthy?"

NO!!!

We should have stopped this way back in 2001, with the flat out rejection of the Patriot Act.

The very minute that a government makes a move on the checks and balances set up to protect the people from tyranny, it should be clear:

...this government is removing all the protections against tyranny BECAUSE THEY INTEND TO ENGAGE IN TYRANNY!!!

Our government is now openly breaking its own laws, and there have been NO consequences. They're testing what they can get away with, just pushing and pushing, and we keep letting them get away with more. This MUST stop.

Answer 3

The la-la-land liberal "patriots" who think government spying is not constitutional need to remember government spying is OUR constitutional right to protect ourselves from the Benedict Arnold's that have pretended to want to protect us since our countries birth. It's all grandstanding for their own "Benefit" Arnold army under the guise of fancy words and recruiting another ACLU-type "posse".

The ACLU was never around until after WW2 so we did just  fine until then. That war created a temporary need to protect American minorities but the ACLU has worn out its welcome in America. They are the only self-appointed government oversight committee that accepts charitable contributions and fights for separation of church and state. There are two faces of the ACLU (vs ACLU Foundation) and they fight two-faced politicians. It now defends Mexicans and lobbies our elected officials to "update" our constitution with lawyers that we neither elected nor can impeach. Hallowed be our ACLU!

Our presidential candidates say we can never hope to control let alone get rid of lobbyists, like the ACLU.

So, wiretap the h**l out of them!

Illegal aliens come here sponsored by their homeland so they can wire money back home. Check out Mexico's Grupos Beta government agency and their Tres-Por-Uno program. The government wiretapped and shut down an Arab front in my neighborhood that was wiring money overseas to terrorist camps. The government can shut down Mexico's wire transfer scam also. So, wiretap the h**l out of them!

Answer 4

I'm totally with Oishi on this one.

The dismantling of rights and privacy only started with the Patriot Act.  It has been continuing since 2001.   Look at the most recent bill, HR1955.  Don't be fooled by the inclusion of the word "terrorism" in the name.  It is about suppressing political dissent in America.  It has already passed the house, waiting for Senate).  It is almost too late to stop it.

Wake up people ... we are sleepwalking into tyranny.  

Don't wait for the main steam media to inform you about this - that won't happen until we have already lost too many rights to do anything about it.

Answer 5

I'm stoked that Oishi, BJK and I are totally on the same page, here.

If I must sink my own ship (John Hancock), then so be it.

I will.

These despots have, for 20 years, left a train of abuses we can NOT tolerate!

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Answer 6

We, as a society, should not need to "wiretap" but, given we have wiretapping, we enjoy knowing something other people don't.  I only have to look at the unaccountability of people on the internet with their usernames to explain to me what anonymity does.

Answer 7

who are we to say if it is wrong or not it is up to the situation all on it self.