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Isn't It commonly known that 911 was done by the Goverment?

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I mean the theory that Arabs did it, has been debunked....

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  1. ...and that is EXACTLY why I wear a tinfoil beanie: to keep those pesky CIA thought-control waves away from my geniusly inventive and highly independent brain. and why I don't brush my teeth: 'cuz fluoride is known to be a Commie plot to make our teeth fall out...I could go on and on, but I hear people with walkie-talkies heading towards my cave....


  2. Actually only the fringe lunatic group believes in the 9/11 conspiracies. In fact every claim they make has been disproved time and time again.  So unless you have actually evidence and not some c**p posted on the Internet just know that yes we are all laughing at you and not with you.

    Fire won't melt steel ? Really now, ever seen a cutting torch?

    Ever  been to a foundry.  Beside the fire didn't have to melt the steel just had to heat it up past 800 degrees and it becomes weak enough to collapse.

    Building were wired with explosives? Really now? A job like that would take several days to do, why was there not a single report of suspicious workers? Why did NO ONE see the MILES of wiring it would have taken? Why  is it NO ONE saw holes cut into the walls and floors where the explosives would have had to be placed?  Why is it there was not a single trace of explosives found after the collapse? Why was there not even a SINGLE report of the noticeable smell of explosives after the buildings went down ?

  3. Yes it IS commonly known!  Put your claws away people.. the man is only asking a question.

    Certain key US Government officials were behind the attacks but not all of them.  When we say the Government was behind the attacks ,well, that's what we mean.

    It's not ludicrous to believe that either.  Seing as our US Government has done worse!  And with tens of thousands of US Citizens.  But now that they've finally declassified the documents no one cares!  

    Government Website detailing human radiation experiments

    http://www.hss.energy.gov/healthsafety/o...

    Staff Report Prepared by senators for the Committee on Veterans' affairs.. of the US Governments experimentations on US Soldiers over a 50 year period.  

    http://www.gulfweb.org/bigdoc/rockrep.cf...

    http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/adrast...

    They've also declassified some plans they had in the 1960's that were eerily similiar to the 9/11 attacks.

    Operation Northwoods:  

    http://www.nowaroncuba.org/Documentation...

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&...

    And for all those who can't believe the US government could ever harm our own citizens... well they're just simply uninformed.  

    7 of the 19 -9/11 hijackers as identified by the FBI.. have been found alive.  

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1...

    http://911review.org/Wget/members.fortun...

    And the FBI can't link Osama Bin Laden to the 911 attacks.

    http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-fbi-cant-l...

    I can't understand how there could possibly be people out there who are still so in the dark.

  4. I like to see a good argument from a so-called "debunker" but those people above are just too too much, and some of them are sadly misinformed.  The answers are almost as ridiculous as the government's explanations for the events of 9/11.  

    While I do not believe it correct to state that it is commonly known that 9/11 was "done by the government", it is fair to say that the majority of the people believe the government is lying and covering-up.

    Off the top of my head .. the most recent poll showed these results

    36% of the people believing it was an inside job

    84% of the people believing the government was lying or covering-up

    16% of the people believing the government was telling the truth

    That was a 2006 poll.  More people have awakened since then.   You can find those polls with a Google search.

    I am not convinced of the "total inside job" theory but am convinced that people in the government were involved with the events of the day.

  5. Look, I'd love to believe that somehow we could put all the bad stuff in the world at the feet of people we don't like and than hope someone does something about it. But that's not reality.

    It's VERY CLEAR that based on the intelligence available, the government was able to make certain recommendations.

    1. They were aware of a terrorist plot, they were aware it might involve the airlines. This was known and an advisory went out in July that senior administration officials should not fly commercial airliners. Why this was not communicated to                  the FAA or other security personnel , I'm not sure and neither is anyone else.

    2. That "Arabs" did the job is beyond question, there is wreckage, there are recordings, and photos, furthermore, if it wasn't "The Arabs", why is it then that they stated previously in numerous fatwas that something like 9/11 might be in the offing.

    3. "Operation Bojinka"  preceded 9/11 by 6 years and would easily have exceeded the death-toll by nearly double, so either our friendly "Arab" non-allied allies have been working for at least 2 and possibly 3 different administrations, Bush 1, Clinton, (both terms) and Bush Jr.

    Wiki - Khalid_Shaikh_Mohammed

    Furthermore, the "Arabs" in question don't deny their involvement, in fact, they have been able to provide details, plans and specifications for other terrorist plots and have executed dozens of other lower-level attacks throughout both the Muslim and greater Eurasian sphere.

    4. Countries which are NOT friendly to the United States or our interests have nonetheless acted in and with these people, essentially acting in concert with this US plan against its own people.

    Personally speaking, I don't need bogus conspiracy theory c**p when we have REAL conspiracies going on.

    Honestly, probably the most depressing political reality of the whole last few years - was the complete and total failure of the administration to police the high-level espionage and questionable intelligence activities of senior Bush administration officials and others associated with the Office of Special Plans.

    When you read about the personalities involved and the motivations the words simply fail me for how bold-faced the actions against this nation were. It's depressing to me that what was once easily dismissed as being hair-brained or sounding like a snow job by a bunch of neo-n**i conspiracy buffs, turns out to be REAL.

    Wiki - Office_of_Special_Plans

    It's galling to me that little to no action has been taken, and frankly not a little disheartening  to see the same neoconservative slime bags try and weasel their way back into the political channels of both Mr. Mc Cain and to a lesser extent, Mr. Obama's presidential candidacies.

    Personally speaking I find it FAR far more compelling , considering the lack of value that this administration places on the ideal of competence, that incidents of rampant espionage and or gross incompetence on the part of individuals responsible for national security are considered normal or not particularly noteworthy.

    The horrible truth is that when I first saw this video , I was completely convinced it was tin-foil hat territory, ultra-fringe material, Now several years later, it seems positively well reasoned.

    Youtube - watch?v=tmP8Bgof6KE

  6. That's ridiculous.  Read the report of the 9/11 Commission.  Why people love ridiculous conspiracy theories, I'll never know..  Do you also think that the Air Force covered up alien corpses at Area 51 in Roswell, NM?  That the moon landing was faked as a Cold War ploy?  Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society?

  7. Amongst my acquaintances and friends there is a majority consensus that it was not at all what we were told.

    There is a trend towards more people figuring out for themselves that, for instance, the building collapses were physically inconsistent with the plane crash and fire explanation,

    etc etc.. I find it a bit frightening hearing people, who believe it was all as we were told, not only believing the lie, but protecting it as if it were their own lie.

  8. wrong. it wasn't Arabs. it was Muslim extremists who belong to factions of Al Quaeda.

    None of the hijackers survived. All 19 died aboard those planes died.

    how many wrong things can you put into one post?

  9. Neither point is commonly "known".  

    You might recall very shortly after 9-11, Secretary Rice announced that the government had "irrefutable proof" that OBL was behind the attacks and the proof would be made public “shortly”. We still await that proof.  The FBI awaits it too.  As it stands, their reasons for wanting OBL do not include the attacks of 9-11.

    If Arab terrorists were behind the attacks, they were not alone.  There were criminals in suits both inside and outside the government involved. With all of the evidence of foreknowledge and lying, only a fool (once informed) could conclude otherwise.  The problem is that too many people are not informed because they wait for the mainstream media to inform.  MSM is part of the cover-up, so it will be a long wait.

    To buy the official fairy tale requires an astronomical leap of faith and belief in multiple improbable coincidences all magically happening within hours.  The problem is that people are not informed because of the media complicity.  Once informed, few people would be gullible enough to take that leap.

  10. This isn't like JFK or the moon landing conspiracy theories, where there is no harm in engaging in a flight of fantasy.   This was an injury to all of us Americans that is a long way from healing.   Thousands of lives were lost, and all of us were affected.   Your post is not only ignorant, but it is offensive to all Americans and the memory of what we have lost.   You should have more tact.

  11. I like how these conspiracy theorists use as the basis for their argument random facts that they happened to read somewhere, or hear from someone, the majority of which are likely distorted, exaggerated, or completely invented, and then accuse everyone else of believing everything they're told. The irony there baffles us reasonable folk on the sidelines.

    You tell me, which side is more sheep like?

  12. see, what you should have done is ask who people thought caused 9/11. It would have made you seem alot less biased

    Now you're gonna have to read a bunch of responses questioning your sanity. have fun.

    P.S. I'm sorry, im still gonna say it was a bunch of pissed off terrorists in afganistan.

  13. are you on crack?  maybe not all of them were arab, but they were all radical muslims soooo, i think you should recheck your sources.

  14. Dude, come on.  Now take your pills and go back to bed.

    Bury the dead.  They just stink up the place.

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