Isn't it kinda the same thing when a feminist says?

Question

"i don't support radical feminist ideology" and an anti-feminist says "i am for equality but not feminism"?

think about it... marinate a bit... so? should i lay off the sauce?

Answer 1

Yeah it's the same thing.  I've thought about that myself.  I'm one of the "for equality but not feminism" people, and my views match up closer with some of the self-proclaimed feminists on here than some of the anti-feminists.  That's why I don't often pay much attention to the labels everybody gives themselves.

Answer 2

I would have to say no - radical feminism isn't really about equal rights, it's about establishing women only communities - radical feminists believe men are inferior.  So it would only be illogical if I thought that, but didn't use the name.  Whereas the idea that men and women are equal and should have equal rights is a feminist idea, so it is contradictory to say you believe in that, but are not a feminist :-)

Answer 3

oohh... my brain hurts now.

More sauce please.

Seriously though, yeah it's kinda the same.

Answer 4

It's not really the same thing because many people consider that  feminism is not really about equality. If feminism was about equality, the VAWA would've been called the Domestic Violence Act. Can you really call it equality when your campaigns gain for one group more rights than another. If you call yourself an egalitarian, you have to eventually stop fighting for rights that your equals don't have. Otherwise, you are not egalitarian at all and you've been pursuing your goals under a false banner of equality. At some point, if you're for equality, you have to cease being a feminist and become a humanist.  

In short, many people don't believe you when you say that feminism is not about equality.

Answer 5

Yeah, it is the same they both don't support feminism, or did I miss something?

Answer 6

yes it its

Answer 7

It's absolutely the same thing, which is why I don't understand all of the fighting that goes on in this section...

and NEVER lay off the sauce ;)

Answer 8

Neat question. I think I get where you're going. And if the sauce is what's inspiring this get more and send me some.

My answer is no they are not the same thing. I will use comparisons to Christianity to make my point.

1. First, a person can belong to a system of thought or ideology without agreeing with everyone else who also claims to belong to that ideology. [compared to not supporting radical feminism]

EX: A person can clearly be a committed and serious Christian and be completely opposed to those who call themselves Christian and commit heinous acts like firebombing abortion clinics. In fact, either side of this group may feel like it doesn't even belong grouped with the other.

2. Feminism is the name for the struggle to eliminate social inequalities faced at least by women (and thus achieving equality for both sexes), just as anti-racist strategies seek to achieve racial equality by eliminating the oppression of racial minorities. It is simply illogical to say that you support equality but oppose all forms of feminism. It is more than reasonable to say that you oppose this or that feminist thinker or goal or manifestation, but unreasonable to throw out the entire movement because of the limited failings of some. [compared to equality but not feminism]

EX: I believe in Jesus, but I am opposed to any thing which would go by the name Christianity.

That is not just any form of Christianity which exists or has existed, but even those that have the potential to exist. Christianity is simply the name for ideology purported to be taught by Jesus. It is unreasonable to say that you believe in Jesus but oppose anything by the name of Christianity.

Answer 9

I'm not 100% sure of what you mean but my thoughts are feminism looks out for the well being of women compared to people who are for equality looks out for the well being of everyone not just any particular group.

Thats the difference for me.

Answer 10

Rush Limbaugh made feminism a bad word no one wants attached to them, just the same way that "liberal" was turned into a word that people MIND LESS LY agree is "bad".

It's just mindless agreeal, by brainwashed people, to the wishes of some puppeteers who snicker at how they tricked you into speaking against your own thing.

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your question is confusing by its wording you couldnt avoid...

you're asking isnt it the same if someone says "I'm against feminism" and when someone says "I'm against feminism".

The common denominator I see is that women have been duped, by introduction of a meme, to being against being for themselves! their own good interest.

((((and It's just nasty SPIN to add "radical" to "feminism")))

On an episode of THE MAN SHOW (sorry, am one) (b***s, ya know) Jimmy Kimmel sets up a booth out in public somewhere (for real) and tries to get passing women to sign a petiton AGAINST "women's suffrage"

He gets a lot of signatures

the women DONT know their own history

and are fooled into beleiving they are asked to help be against "suffering"

One of the worst jokes Ive seen pulled.

And I ref it here to recommend the antidote for ignorance is (their own((women's)) )knowledge.

spread it

spread it MORE than the b.s.is getting spread!

Answer 11

No.  Feminism is not about equality.

Answer 12

Of course it's the same thing. It's about time someone pointed it out.