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Isnt saying Mary is Queen of Heaven dangerously close to calling her a goddess?

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Think about it, if it was Heaven's Queen then she would be a goddess.

So isn't saying Queen of Heaven dangerously close to calling her a goddess?

and as a side note, I assure you, Paul nor Peter called Mary the queen of heaven, that was added by......

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  1. Nah, she's just a figurehead, like in the UK.  Just Jesus being kind to his mum.


  2. No it is not. It not even close to being a goddess, any more than Britain having a queen.

  3. She is a goddess, and that is good.

  4. This is where the idea of Mary as Queen of Heaven and the Mother of God and Mother of all Christians comes from...

    I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed. --- Gen. 3:15

    Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother ... When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother. --- Jn. 19:25-27

    And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. --- Rev. 12:17

    In Revelation, we're told of ''a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars'' (12:1). Some say that this woman must be the Church, or the nation of Israel, but since this woman is the mother of a ''man-child'' (Jesus, see Psalm 2:9), she must be Mary. The Church does not give birth to Christ, but originates from Him. We cannot prefer a collective term for the woman while describing the Son as an individual, and there is no instance in the Old Testament in which the nation of Israel is designated as the collective mother of the Messiah. If Christ is God incarnate, and Mary is His mother, than Mary is the mother of God. Since the Church comes from Christ, Mary is the mother of all Christians as well. We see her depicted in Scripture as a woman in the sky with a crown of twelve stars... What else are we to call her but the Queen of Heaven? This does not make her a goddess. It makes her someone we are to look to and imitate because of her faith in God, just like St. Paul, or Moses, or King David. We are not to worship her, and you're right to say that we should be very careful not to place her above God, but she should still be remembered in honor, and not merely as some ''earthly vessel'' who ''only gave birth to Jesus.'' She should be remembered as the Queen of Heaven, and we must follow her example of feeding Christ and clothing Him, inviting Him in, etc. And how do we do that?

    Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto Me. --- Matt. 25:40

  5. Yes. But, praying to her and kneeling in front of a statue of her would also be idolatry. Does that stop people from doing said activities? Of course not.

  6. Well he knocked her up and nearly ruined her marriage.  The least he could do was give her a meaningless title.

    Lighten up.  It's just a joke.

  7. I am sorry but you are finding that reference in Jeremiah. It's in reference to False Gods.. The Queen of Heaven is not Mary. You should pray to God, not false Gods.. The Queen of Heaven is a False God that those particular people were worshiping.


  8. "heaven does not have a queen and God (the creator) does not have a mother."

    If Mary is the mother of Jesus, and Jesus is God Incarnate, then Mother of God necessarily follows.

  9. No, because she is not worshiped by the Church or its followers.  I suppose you could call her a princess if you like. Revelation (12:1) A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman  clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.  Rev(12:5)  She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod.  We see the body of a woman- her feet and her head with a crown who gives birth to the Christ.  Usually a woman with a crown on her head could be called a queen and since she is in heaven... you get "queen of heaven." Since we also see her body in heaven it must have gotten there somehow. We could deduce it was assumed into heaven by the power of God.  

      Remember from Gen (3:14-15)  Then the LORD God said to the serpent: "Because you have done this, you shall be banned from all the animals and from all the wild creatures; On your belly shall you crawl, and dirt shall you eat all the days of your life.  I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; He will strike at your head, while you strike at his heel."  We have here a serpent, a woman, and an offspring from the woman. In Rev 12:4 says     Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth.  She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod.  We see again a serpent, a woman and an offspring from the woman.  We see the devil, Mary, and Jesus in the first book and last book of the bible.  

       Peter and Paul do not refer to Mary as a queen as the book of Revelation implies.  However the book of Revelation was written around the year 95 or 96 and Peter and Paul are both thought to have died around the year 64.  So they would not have read the book of Revelation before they died.  Now that we have the bible and look back upon it and reflect on all the things that happened why should we not gain more insights into God's plan?  Do you not realize things about Christianity now that you did not 5 years ago, 10 years ago?  Imagine what we can continue to learn for 2000 years of study of the Scriptures.  Is it not conceivable that our limited minds may take many years to gain a deeper and deeper understanding of the mysteries of God.  Or to you is God so limited He could be completely understood in one generation of followers?  You tell me.

  10. It would seem so... I went to a Catholic funeral and when I heard the invocation, that was exactly what I thought.

  11. Mary was the mother of Jesus and His half - brothers and sisters.  She had several children, we do not know how many because the girls are not named.

    Mary was a good child when she became the mother of Jesus.  Mary was of the tribe of Aaron, the priestly tribe.  Joseph was a descendant of David.  Mary and Joseph were normal human beings with human frailties.  If Mary had not sinned, we would not have needed Jesus because we all could live a sinless life if she did.  We all sin and come short except Jesus, the God/man.  Mary was humanity.

  12. The Queen of Heaven is a Goddess.

  13. You seem to be thinking. Good for you.

    Next, look into the history of Easter and Christmas.

    This rabbit hole goes deeper than you realize.

    EDIT - It goes as far as you're willing to look.

  14. And let me guess, that offends your manhood in some way. What would Paul think, hopefully not much as his head rolled from his body eons ago.

  15. The woman who gave birth to Jesus is certainly not a goddess. Nor is she some queen of heaven. Truth is, she is just another sinner like the rest of us. But where she differs from most is that she is now trusting in her Saviour, whereas most here will never know the Saviour.


  16. Jesus is the King of kings.  The mother of a king is known as the Queen Mother.  Mary is currently in Heaven.  Therefore, Mary is the Quenn of Heaven.

    No, that is not dangerously close to calling her a goddess.  

    Unlike you, Catholics NEVER consider Mary a goddess.

  17. heaven does not have a queen and God (the creator) does not have a mother.  

  18. It's all semantics. Queens are not goddesses unless you want them to be.  

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