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Israel or Palestine, and why?

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  1. Israel mainly because i used to be jewish but i have looked into it and the jews have done some awful things to the palestinians but so have the palestinians to the jews  


  2. Israel.

    WHY:  

    (Religiously) God is on their side, and He has emphatically said they (a) will not disappear from the earth, (b) are the pupil ("apple" in the King James) of His eye, and (c) will all be saved (Romans 11:25).

    (Secularly)  I'm not on the side of anyone who feels they have to make their point by blowing up teenagers at pizza parlors on Saturday night or murdering athletes.  All the Jews want is a place to call their own.  The "Palestinians" -- which the late Yassir Arafat claimed were NOT a people, just a term invented to garner world-wide sympathy (3/31/1975 interview) -- wanted NOTHING to do with the land we call "Israel" until the Balfour Declaration made it clear that political winds were blowing in the direction of creating a Jewish homeland.  THEN AND ONLY THEN did the Muslims begin calling it "a sacred site" (Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Koran) and THEN AND ONLY THEN did the Arabs begin saying it was "their" land.  Lastly, and most importantly, after World War II the land was divided up into "Jewish home land" and "Arab homeland."  The Jewish homeland was Israel.  The Arab homeland was Transjordan.  So you see, they ALREADY have their "homeland."  

  3. Israel ...

    1 - palestine never existed in reality as a country .

    2 - muslims believe in the Torah ( the O.T ) .. God promised to give this land to the jews in the torah .

    3 - jews have the right to have a country , like muslims in KSA and IRAN .


  4. palestine.

    i never heard of this place called Israel,

    hmm there must be no such thing.

  5. palestine. without USA israel will be exterminated long time ago .what hitler did to them they now are doing to the arabs ...

  6. Well, seeing as Palestine has never been a country (it's an area like The Mid-West) I'll pick Israel.

    The 'Palestinians' were given an area; it's called Trans-Jordan.

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  7. ISRAEL.  

    There is no such thing as "palestine", nor should there ever be.  

    The land of Israel belongs to the JEWISH PEOPLE.  Jesus has given it to them as an everlasting inheritance.

    Other people can live there if allowable by Israeli law, but those other people MUST respect that the land of Israel belongs to the JEWISH PEOPLE, and must work so that the Jewish people have full ownership and control over the entire land of Israel.

  8. Israel, God gave them the land forever.

  9. The term 'Palestinian' always referred to both Jews and Arabs. The region was named Judea, it was the home of the Jews until the Romans conquered it and renamed it 'Palestina' after the Philistines, who had already vanished.

    It was the Arab world that REJECTED a separate Palestinian Arab state to exist in peace alongside Israel. The Arab world has always rejected this because it will not accept ANY Jewish state in the region - despite Jews having lived there NON STOP for the past 3000 years!

    Israel gives the Palestinian Arabs free water, fuel and electricity. In return, in Gaza under Hamas control, the Palestinians every day send fatal missiles into southern Israel and maim and kill Israeli children and women and men.

    The Palestinian Arabs HAD ALL THEIR DEMANDS GRANTED by Israel, at Camp David and Taba, in 2000 and 2001.

    They were offered: 100% of Gaza strip

    97% of West Bank

    East Jerusalem

    The Palestinian Arabs REJECTED all of this. Why? Because the ONE thing Israelis asked in return was an END TO TERRORISM. And the Palestinian Arabs refused!

    *82* of the region of Palestine is now JORDAN. Yes, an ARAB country.

    Israel takes up something like 0.01% of the entire Middle East. She's the only democracy there.

    So for me: ISRAEL. Every time.

    edit to CHRIS

    Jesus DID NOT 'give' Israel to us. Jesus has nothing to do with it. If you want to support Israel because she is a democratic state where all are free, then GREAT.

    But please, don't try and drag Israel into your 'end of days', Jesus-related beliefs.

  10. Why do you insist that people choose?

    The only way for their to be peace is for people to accept that there are two peoples, and they need to be able to live side by side.  Period.

    There is a country called Israel.  It was created by UN Mandate, the same as many other modern countries, like Pakistan.  To say that for whatever reason it shouldn't exist, is both ridiculous (do you also believe Pakistan should disappear and become India again?), and disrespectful of the Jews who were on the land for centuries, and who in the last 100 years have turned the land from a desert to a blooming center of civilization.  The country was earned, in many ways.

    Palestinians deserve a country as well.  They already have Jordan, which ought to be enough, but Jordan has made it clear that they don't want them.  But there can not be a Palestinian country until the Palestinians accept that they have to live side by side with Jews.  So long as the people running Palestine keep insisting that there can be no Israel, how can the world take them seriously?  There are gorgeous beaches in Gaza, major religious and historical sites in the West Bank which used to be ideal for tourism, and the exact same lousy arable land that is in Israel proper.  In other words, there is no reason why a Palestinian country could not succeed.  But so long as they insist it's us-or-them, and continue to support terrorist attacks against civilians - both Jews and members of Fatah - I don't know how it will happen.  

    I don't side with one or the other.  I side with both.  But I do see Israel bending over backwards making concessions (there are no more Jewish settlements in Gaza), and I don't see any similar move towards peace from the Palestinians (Gaza is now a launching pad for hundreds of rocket attacks on Israeli suburbs a week).

    The day the Palestinians stop claiming all of Israel and say they want peace, they will have a state.  This should not be about two sides both wanting everything.  It's ridiculous.  Without compromise, there will always be fighting.


  11. i side with Justice wherever it may be.  

  12. Palestine...

    Israel is children murderers

  13. Israel -is- Palestine... one of them, at least. The Arab Palestine is what we now call Jordan. The Jewish Palestine is Israel.

    In fact, I'm not even against "Palestine", but I am against Hamas. If they didn't have a terrorist organization for a government which actively targets civilians (both their own and Israeli), I'd say live and let live.

  14. Palestine forever

    there is nothing called Israel before the Balfour Declaration, and don't call me anti-Semite because im myself a Semite,,

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