Israelis can you answer a few questions honestly for me?

Question

At what point does a criminal act become an act of terrorism in Israel? What is the defining factor? Who do you think is hurt by your growing hate? How will you have peace with so much hate inside you?

Answer 1

We (Israelis and Jews) do not hate as much as the Arabs do; we do not educate our children to hate, and most of us are striving for peace.

I think you need to ask the Arabs how they plan to achieve peace despite the hate.

After all, it is not hatred on our side that pushed an Arab to murder and maim innocent people!

I love the way you turn things around, accusing us of the attacks against us....  How brilliant!

Answer 2

israelis don't hate the way palestinians do. we don't have those hateful kids' tv shows, there is no israeli terrorism.

i don't know if yesterday was a terrorist attack or one crazy criminal. i do know that it was a palestinian that did it.

we'd love to have peace but we've learned that peace is not the same as lying down in front of people who want to kill you. we don't want to kill palestinians, we don't want to drive them out, we just want to live side by side in peace. but as long as they want to drive us out, we will defend ourselves.

Answer 3

As a Palestinian, I only hate those  who  keep saying there is no Palestine and there are no people called Palestinians. Those people are living in past dark ages.

Answer 4

I think the first two questions have been quite adequately addressed by the Duke of York above.

As for the second two... firstly, and I may be wrong on this point, but your very question marks you as someone with little, if any, connection to the situation. Sure, the situation in Israel and the "Territories" effects matters like international terrorism (to an extent) and the price of petroleum. But what are those issues compared to two peoples fighting for homeland and identity?

As a member of one of those two peoples, I know that the "growing hate" of which you speak truly hurts only two groups at the end of the day: Jews and Palestinians. And I agree that, to achieve true, effective, lasting peace, each side must cast aside its hate, difficult though it may be. And, as  proud Jew and prouder Zionist, I realize how difficult it will be for both Jews and Palestinians. So should you. That difficulty is compounded by ranting propagandists like Alice A and her little hand puppet above; one spewing half truths and utter falsehoods that more belong in Der Sturmer than anyplace in the 21st century (excepting, unfortunately, much of the Arab media), while the other nods his spring-loaded head.

While I understand how and why the Arabs feel the need to hate us, those of us in the Jewish camp that hate on the level of the human caricatures mentioned above are almost universally marginalized as crackpots. Sure there are extremists in the Israeli government, but it is the presence of a higher number of more thoughtful heads that provide the rational, democratic backdrop against which that extremism can be identified. If you look at the official press not just from the PA, but from the near entirety of the Arab world, they stack up with the most vehement, rabid racists history has to offer. Jews have dealt with this mindset countless times over the last 2000 years and beyond. It took the 20th century to show that we have to take it seriously and respond seriously.

As for the "hatred" manifested on our side, I can only speak for myself. I pride myself on being a rational person... as rational as I can manage, anyway. That said, I am ashamed to admit that I must daily wrestle with my hatred for Palestinians. I do not hate them because they are Arab; I do not hate them because they are Mulsim (mostly). I hate them because they are my enemy. One gentleman on here decried only those who deny the historicity and validity of Palestinian history and identity. I commend him on that sentiment, but why shouldn't it apply as equally to our historical and ethnic connection to our traditional, historic homeland? Not only does all of Christian/Western history support our claim to our land, each ethnic Jew carries the genetic markers that links him or her to the land from which we sprang (do a search on "primaquin trials" for just one piece of support for this). The Palestinian/Arab answer to this is to deny our ancestral connection to the land, as well as the fact that Jews have always been in our homeland. In fact, not only did they constitute a numerical majority in Jerusalem for at least the last century of Ottoman rule, the numbers of Arab residents of the British Mandate of Palestine were bulked up by the British after they tried to renege on the Balfour Declaration by importing settlers from what would become Iraq to offset Jewish ascendancy to placate the group that sat on huge reserves of petroleum across the area (though, unfortunately, not in Israel).

Perhaps the final straw was the one-two blow of the  future release of a mentally deficient child murderer to a hero's welcome in Lebanon and the following hate crime by a petty criminal under the sway of other criminals masquerading as nationalists and clergymen.

At the moment, the front-page story on Haaretz.com is about the Israeli gov't fearing vigilante reprisals against Arabs in Jerusalem and around the country as a result of the acts described in the previous paragraph. While I feel that the rush of the gov't to deploy police to protect the Arab community points to a much higher level of nobility on the part of Israel than on those who would defame her, a large part of me feels perverse satisfaction that some of my fellow Jews are motivated to violence. I am not advocating it or reveling in it, but I am speaking about how I truly feel.

The Duke said (via Golda Meir) that this mess will stop when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us. I agree wholeheartedly. But, until they do so, I want to see their children die each time one of our does.

EDIT:

Sorry, sorry... I meant "Duke of Tudor". Sorry.

Answer 5

you can just read the "duke of tudor" answer again because he took the words right out of my mouth.

Answer 6

Palestinians need to quite whining and get over the fact that they will never get any more land out of Israel... they don't deserve it, but seems like they just like to sit around, not work and complain.  Look at Israel - it is beautiful, successful and full of amazing, intelligent people.  So why would any Israeli want the Palestinians coming in... here is a hint - go get a job and move on with your life!

Answer 7

as Israeli Jew... i dont hate Arabs, Jews,Germans etc etc...

i just hate terrorists and immoral people or bad people...

if some Arab\Palestinian(and i live with them so i respect them) hate me just because I'm Israeli or Jew... i think he must to understand that he have to know me befor he hate me...

i have never hurt someone and i didn't do bad act against someone...

i believe allmost the Palestinians are good person... but their way to achieve what they want is bad.. terror.

Answer 8

Only when it suits the lying propagandists for which israel is famous. A state where the citizens spy on each other and live in a constant unhealthy  state of paranoia fed by their genuine guilt and fear of reprisal for their inhuman treatment of Palestinians and of their own sick, unemployed and elderly people.

Just look at this failed countries old jews as the rummage through the rubbish bins of the capital city for food!  some of these destitute old Jews may even have suffered in the holocaust God forbid!

But the selfish extremes of the Israeli's are pathological and their misinformation and lies endemic.

Most of their leaders are former terrorists look up DEIR YASSIN. Many of their leaders are wanted fugitives by nations like USA and Britain. Their last President Katsav a Rapist. Sharon and Olmert under investigation for taking bribes.

Having received a Trillion dollars of handouts from the USA taxpayer they seem to have "lost" the money and turned the country into a pitiless, immoral ,wasteland - even for their own old an destitute people. Pornography, White slavery, copyright theft are their main earners.

They claim to "make the desert flower" yet out of 7 million people nearly 2 million are officially in poverty and Black Jews Christians and Muslims are treated like inferior beings. Their desert only flowers by stealing water from Palestinians and stealing their land with their internationally condemned wall.

They blatantly murder humane peacemakers like Rachel Corrie and try to silence the Press by murdering accredited journalists.

That is how a simple if dreadful criminal act as yesterdays driving of a bulldozer ( emulating the thousand such attacks on Palestinian families) is turned into further propaganda to squeeze even more money out of the long suffering USA taxpayer.

Answer 9

1. A criminal act becomes an act of terrorism when its intention is to hurt others simply because they are Jews.

2. I don't hate other people. But, it doesn't mean I would ever tolerate them if they try to hurt me.

3. See point no. 2. There will be peace when Muslim Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews.

Answer 10

I'm not Israeli but I am pro Israel so I think I'll throw in my 2 cents...

I think that we should apply basic principles. Namely, clearly define what terrorism is, and ask if that applies to the specific situation in hand.

I am not one of those fools who thinks that "one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter". If someone's or some group's actions and motivations clearly indicate that the "T label" should be applied, then, yes, it should be applied.

So, for the reasons why Al Queda flying airplanes into the WTC is an act of terrorism and Hamas sending suicide bombers into Israel are acts of terrorism, then the same standard should be applied.

And as an aside, how are you able to assess the "hate level" of Israelis?

Answer 11

As a Lebanese, I only hate those who keep saying there is no falafel/hummus combo and there is no food called falafummus. Those people are living in past dark ages.