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It's also warming on Mars...so how can people not see it's ...?

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How can people not see that this warming trend, very natural, is because of the sun and not because of us? Mars is warming too? How many people will be all for saving Mars now? (Yes that was sarcasm)

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  1. I certainly hope we get to mars and leave colonies of people there.We need to be a multiplanet species And we need to go the moon to stay this time too.


  2. People see the facts that they choose to see.  "Global warming" is a very selective science.

  3. But it's not warming on most of the planets.  So how could it be the Sun?  Scientists have proven that it's not.

    "Recent oppositely directed trends in solar

    climate forcings and the global mean surface

    air temperature", Lockwood and Frolich (2007), Proc. R. Soc. A

    doi:10.1098/rspa.2007.1880

    http://www.pubs.royalsoc.ac.uk/media/pro...

    News article at:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6290228.st...

    The warming on Mars is due to giant dust storms.  NASA on that:

    http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/researc...

  4. You are incorrect.  Please see Myth #4 at the link below.

  5. Myth...

    http://environment.newscientist.com/chan...

    "There have been claims that warming on Mars and Pluto are proof that the recent warming on Earth is caused by an increase in solar activity, and not by greenhouses gases. But we can say with certainty that, even if Mars, Pluto or any other planets have warmed in recent years, it is not due to changes in solar activity.

    The Sun's energy output has not increased since direct measurements began in 1978 (see Climate myth special: Global warming is down to the Sun, not humans). If increased solar output really was responsible, we should be seeing warming on all the planets and their moons, not just Mars and Pluto.

    Our solar system has eight planets, three dwarf planets and quite a few moons with at least a rudimentary atmosphere, and thus a climate of sorts. Their climates will be affected by local factors such as orbital variations, changes in reflectance (albedo) and even volcanic eruptions, so it would not be surprising if several planets and moons turn out to be warming at any one time.

    However, given that a year on Mars is nearly two Earth years long, and that a year on Pluto lasts for 248 Earth years, it is rather early to start drawing conclusions about long-term climate trends on the outer bodies of the Solar System.

    What do we know? Images of Mars suggest that between 1999 and 2005, some of the frozen carbon dioxide that covers the south polar region turned into gas (sublimated). This may be the result of the whole planet warming (see Mars images hint at recent climate swings).

    Dwarf planet

    One theory is that winds have recently swept some areas of Mars clean of dust, darkening the surface, warming the Red Planet and leading to further increases in windiness – a positive feedback effect (see Dust blamed for warming on Mars).

    There is a great deal of uncertainty, though. The warming could be a regional effect. And recent results from the thermal imaging system on the Mars Odyssey probe suggest that the polar cap is not shrinking at all, but varies greatly from one Martian year to the next, although the details have yet to be published.

    Observations of the thickness of Pluto's atmosphere in 2002 suggested the dwarf planet was warming even as its orbit took it further from the Sun. The finding baffled astronomers at the time, and the cause has yet to be determined.

    It has since been suggested that this is due to a greenhouse effect: as it gets closer to the sun Pluto may warm enough for some of the methane ice on its surface to turn into a gas. This would cause further warming, which would continue for a while even after Pluto's orbit starts to take it away from the Sun."

  6. You couldn't terraform Mars using smoke stacks.... Mars lacks Nitrogen and O2. Mars has more than enough CO2. Whoever told you that either doesn't know what they are talking about or is strait up lying to you.

  7. That is true it is warming on mars and global warming is natural, however the alarmist will chose to ignore this fact.

  8. Actually years ago when I took an astronomy class the subject of terraforming Mars came up. And you you know how they planned on warming the place up? I give you a little hint. They planned on using giant GHG (Green House Gas) producing smokestacks, or in others words Anthropogenic Global Warming.

    Huh? What? Man can actually have a climatological effect on an entire planet? No, blaspheme!

    And in today's world they'd probably add SUV's to the mix. Maybe all those skeptics should just go to Mars and do some good for once.

    AgCrew08, The smokestacks were to add extra atmosphere to the planet as well as warmth. Then planets would be added inside and eventually hardy outside plants that would add O2 back into the environment.

    So no, I was informed correctly you just did not have all the details. The theory sounds sound enough but maybe I'll ask it in another section just to make sure.

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