Jewish people, how many of the 300+ "prophecies" do you acknowledge as being prophecies?

Question

christians often tout that jesus fulfilled some 300 plus prophecies from the old testament. i've read over many of these so-called prophecies, and to be honest, most require an amazing stretch of my imagination for me to even remotely consider as a prophecy. i'm wondering, since these prophecies are all from jewish holy books, how many of these verses do jews actually consider to be prophecies?

Answer 1

From my understanding: none

The thing to consider as well, is that the Jewish scriptures read much differently than the Christian Old Testament.  For example, the passage that is often referred to in Isaiah as being a mention of Jeus reads totally different in the Tanakh than it does in the OT.

Answer 2

Christians claim those verses that are dependent on taking out of context or willful mistranslation, are of the Davidic Messiah and that they prove fit Jesus..

However, the prophecies of the Davidic Messiah of the Jewish religion, are utterly ignored or are applied to the Christian invention of a "second coming" to try to explain why Jesus did none of them.

The New Testament depiction of the life of Jesus was written in a manner to place him in the Tanakh as much as possible, since his lifetime did not distinguish him as any form of Mosiach ( anointed ruler).

http://www.messiahtruth.com/discovery.ht...  < Read this and see how one could apply the Tanakh in the SAME manner to try to prove that a Rooster was the Mosiach.

I will address just the nonsensical nature of ONE proclaimed prophecy that I have heard a Christian declare that was in itself proof positive Jesus was messiah.  

The bit about Jesus riding into Jerusalem on a donkey is what I'm talking about.

It was no big deal for any Jew to ride into Jerusalem on a donkey. The donkey, either riding on their back or having them draw a cart or wagon, was the mode of transportation for the average person.

Royalty alone rode horses. It was not permitted for the common man to ride a horse. The Hebrew Bible's prophetic vision is of an anointed ( mosiach ) ruler who rules from Jerusalem and displays great virtue. Rather than being a man of war, he is to rule with justice and mercy, rather than being haughty he is to display humility and one of the means by which that was shown was a prophetic vision of the Mosiacn riding a donkey like the common man. Since Jesus was never an anointed ruler and appears to have been relatively unknown by most Judeans, his riding to town on a donkey was no more a big deal than any other Jew riding in on a donkey.

If he had been a King, it would have displayed his humility. It would have been akin to watching a U.S. President eschew riding Air Force One by showing up in Washington DC riding a Greyhound bus to show his humility and connection to the common man. Get it now?

Jesus only fit ONE of the criteria for the Davidic Mosiach.  He was a Jew.  Other than that, not a thing about his life OR legacy would fit the Hebrew Bible's prophetic vision of an anointed ruler of Israel that leads in humility and peace and brings the whole world to peace and knowledge of God.

Answer 3

There are some 24 Jewish prophecies that are specified in the Tanakh, the Jewish bible.

The Christians speak of hundreds, but they are from the 'old testament', which is a Church-edited, REorganised and MIStranslated version OF the Tanakh. When I read the Christian prophecies I am so bemused - they have NOTHING to do with the idea of the messiah in Judaism, and they never have had! And the Hebrew does not support them!

So as Jews, we have our 24 prophecies, including:

The Jewish messiah will:

- bring world peace

- rebuild the temple

- be from King David's line

- be a normal, mortal man

- bring Torah to all the nations

The Jewish messiah is a normal MORTAL. He is not 'divine'. He does not get a 'second coming'. He must fulfill ALL our prophecies in ONE lifetime. Before he dies, in other words.

Jesus did not fulfill any of OUR prophecies BEFORE HE DIED. Thus, he was not our messiah.

http://www.ajewwithaview.com

Answer 4

Jews have recognized 23 prophecies as relating to the Davidic Messiah for centuries before Jesus' time.

He has fulfilled exactly *none* of them.

The ones the Christians claim he actually fulfilled aren't prophecies at all.

This is the complete listing:

* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)

* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)

* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)

* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)

* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)

* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)

* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)

* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)

* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)

* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)

* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)

* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)

* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)

* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)

* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)

* The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)

* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)

* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)

* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot

* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)

* Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)

* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)

* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9).