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Johan Franzen = Diver? Other divers?

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So, as I am sure you all know if you watched the Penguins/Red Wings game last night, you all saw the Roberts/Franzen incident.

Here it is if you did not see it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSGShYjQX2s

I used to like Johan Franzen, but after this dive, I don't know now. That was overreacting to the max. Atleast from this video, it doesnt seem to be much of a hard hit. But the dive was just ridicolous.

This is one of the worst dives I have seen in a long time, so this brings me to my question of, what are some worse dives than this that you have seen?

(Videos of them would be great!)

P.S. - I am not a whiny Pens fan. I am actually indecisive on who to root for. I want both teams to win, but I am leaning towards Detroit because they are close to my hometown of Toronto.

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  1. That was no dive. Roberts was skating towards Franzen pretty quickly and punched the side of his face/head as he was whizzing by. Franzen was even spun around on his heels before he went down. The poor guy had his concussion-like symptoms aggravated by Roberts and understandably felt it.


  2. Osgood takes top notch at the Oscars this year, but this was at least a distant 2nd place.  Notice the sequence there - takes the hit (more like push) to the face, spins a little, MAKES SURE HE SEES THE REF AND THE REF SEES HIM, then clutches the face and goes down. Joke!!  Disgraceful to the game.  I think he just hurt the ol p***y!

  3. I Am A Detroit Fan But I Will Agree with you about the Dive.. I watched it last night as the game was on and you notice that his reaction time 2 the hit was like 5 seconds off..

    The Wings Sometimes like 2 play actors lol we can't really help it.. Its their choice

  4. I don't know what video YOU were watching, but it wasn't that one. Roberts skates into him, sucker punches him in the face, and he went down pretty quick. Sure it wasn't a knockout punch, but I'll bet it hurt more than you think.

    I just watched it again because of the comment above. It's not even 2 seconds before he goes down. Sometimes adrenaline can keep you going for a few seconds.

    What's worse is Roberts said that Franzen tried to give him an elbow and he just "accidentally" hit Franzen w/ his elbow. I looked at the replay and he sucker punches him. No accident about it.

  5. Dude you stand there and I will skate by you at 10 miles an hour and punch your unsuspecting face! I bet you go down! I guarantee it.

  6. Why don't you go get yourself a concussion, suffer the dizziness and nausea for the following 2 weeks and have some d-bag punch you in the face when you've just recovered and see what your reaction is.

    Not only is he not a diver, he's a gamer. He came back and faced off two more times after being sucker-punched.

    As for the top current Greg Louganis candidate, you need not look any further than the opposition bench. Number 87 in your program, number 1 in commercial rotation, Sidney "head snap" Crosby.

  7. From watching YouTube, it looks like Crosby started learning to dive around age 10. But he's not very good at it. Falling before the stick touches his skates! Hah!

    Sissy.

  8. Only one I call diving in that game was OSGOOD. He gets tapped and then falls and finally looks back KNOWING THE REF IS THERE to make sure he gets the call. He gets right up as soon as that fight breaks out near him.

  9. Take a look at this one from a couple years back.

  10. Johan just came back from missing 6 games due to concussion like symptoms and it was obvious that the Pens were gunning for him.   If I were Franzen, I would have done everything in my power to protect myself too.  Remember, he is playing in one of the biggest games in his life and it's imperative that he stays healthy and if that means taking a "dive" to protect himself, then I say do it.

  11. jacob, i'm just jumping on the bandwagon - it's pretty rare you get everyone together on one thought - you are way off on the diving thing - believe me, if you took a shot like that, you would have hit the ice like a sack - the mule was like a big tree falling ... it took a little longer - i've been hit with a fist, a boxing glove and a hockey glove (well, a few other things also) ... you don't want to be rocked by a hockey glove - next time you are in a sports stores, check out the knuckles of a hockey glove

  12. i wudnt call dat diving...  he jus got punchd in da face after suffering concussion like symptoms

  13. LMAO. are u serious?!?

    If u havent noticed, but Franzen was out most of the Dallas series and game 1 of the SCF because of CONCUSSION LIKE SYMPTOMS. When you get hit in the head after that, its gonna hurt BADLY.

    He didnt even dive! he just turned and went down on his knees. What the h**l do you expect him to do? Go up to Roberts and go "Hey, thanks for hitting me in the head, the place thats been keeping me out for a week or 2! I really needed that!"

  14. Teemu Selanne and Alexi Kovalev.

  15. if that was a dive, it was a pretty pathetic attempt at one, and no he did not dive, why not add teemu, kovalev, sid,

  16. he got punched in the face, he wa already suffereing from concusion like sypmtoms thats no dive maybe sold a little bit but no dive not like ozgood's

  17. That's crazy. Anyone who watched hockey know he is not a diver.

  18. And you can say the same thing about Crosby too.

  19. are you serious??

    crosby is much more of a diver

    and wasnt frazen out for a bit because of a concussion

  20. Do a Google search for   Sidney Crosby dive   and you get 535,000 results.

  21. You''ve never been hit in the head. I had a door catch me from the side years ago. For a moment, I stood there stunned, then sank to my knees. Exactly what Franzen did.

    Selanne is the biggest diver of all time.

  22. I see Roberts sucker-punching a guy who just missed two weeks with a concussion, and said guy going down.  I don't see a dive - I sure don't see overreacting.  

    How often do you get punched in the side of the head with a hockey glove as the guy skates by?  Not all that often, I would hope.  

    I don't agree with you at all - not in the least.

    However, if I happen to be wrong and it was an embellishment - if it worked, more power to him!  Hey, do you think part of the game isn't making the refs see what you want them to see?

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