Judo vs bjj?

Question

I'm 21 years old and thinking of starting up some martial arts. I have always watched MMA and even wrestled some back when I was younger so I know that BJJ is the best ground by far. I'm just wondering if Judo would be sufficient for basic techniqes (chokes, ground take downs, guard, etc). I'm not looking to do it for competition, just for fun and to have confidence in my ability on the ground if anything ever did happen. Just wondering what your basic thoughts are on Judo vs. BJJ . Thanks

Answer 1

Absolutely, though a lot of it depends on the school.

If you go to a decent place they spend about 50% of their training time on matwork. You will learn pretty much every bit of what you learn in BJJ, the techniques are pretty much the same, the difference is you spend 80% of your training time on the ground in BJJ or more. Whereas Judo has a bit more balanced approached between takedowns and groundwork.

Also as far as the other poster said, depends on the Judo school, as far as I have always been taught in both BJJ and Judo, Guard isn't a go to position. You learn sweeps, and some submissions from there, but the idea is for it to be a defensive position in which you are able to regain a positional advantage via a counter or sweep.

You learn a ton of those in Judo.

Personally I prefer the constant motion ideaology in Judo a bit more than BJJ's mentality. In Judo your groundwork has to be dynamic, not long periods of stalling or stalemating in the guard waiting for one person to make a mistake. In reality and MMA that builds bad habits, laying there in guard waiting for someone to make a mistake doesn't take into account their ability to punch you repeated in your guard.

Something many wrestlers have taken advantage of against BJJ players in MMA.

In Judo your focus is a bit more offensive on the ground then defensive, meaning I spend more time making my opponent move, then waiting for him to fall into a trap, which is what a lot of BJJ players (especially lower ranks) end up doing, pulling guard and waiting for a change in base to sweep or submit.

I personally don't believe in spending a lot of time in guard work, I would rather spend more time passing the guard, and securing dominant positions, as well as how to get out of dominant positions and using the guard as a last line of defense.

I think in Judo you can find everything you need as far as ground work, takedowns, take down defense, and submissions. Judo spends more time on pinning and controlling then BJJ does, as well as escapes from pins which is very advantageous to holding dominant positions, as well as getting out of them.

In a perfect world you train in both, so you get the full gamet. But as far as one fun and basic and even advance ability on the ground Judo can cover you pretty d**n good.

Answer 2

You want ground fighting? Go with BJJ. Sure you will learn ground fighting in judo and yes it will be sufficient. The way you asked that question though you sound like you want BJJ. If theres something your not saying like that you wanna learn throws on top of the ground fighting then go with judo but if you wanna learn ground fighting from day 1 and focus on that go with a BJJ all the way. Again judo will teach you sufficient ground fighting minus leg locks(don't forget you just lost some ground game) but if you want ground game BJJ ALL THE WAY

Answer 3

Masahiko Kimura is the only name you'll need to remember when it comes to BJJ.  The Ude garami, now known as the Kimura  by all BJJ students, is a Judo technique that Kimura ( Judo practitioner ) used to break Helio Gracie's ( BJJ Founder ) arm with.  Judo -vs- Jujitsu is as simple as Matt Serra ( BJJ ) vs. Karo Parisyan ( Judo ) in 2005 when Serra got the sh*t beat out of him by Karo Parisyan.  BJJ -vs- Judo....yeah right....hehehe.  Let real life history speak for its self eh?...BJJ will never see the day when it will give Judo a run for its money my aztec friends. BJJ sounds like a banana growing company to me...hehehe.  "Masahiko Kimura" a name BJJ practitioners know they will never forget!!!

Answer 4

Judo is definitely a lot of fun, and so is BJJ.

You're right- if you're looking for groundwork, BJJ does a much better job of teaching the newaza portion of fighting.

Honestly, though- while most Judo ground techniques would be more than sufficient to win a fight, most schools I've seen that dedicate a decent portion of time to newaza are still very lacking in guard work of any kind.

On an aside, look for schools that dedicate some amount of time (at least 20%) to no-Gi work, regardless of style. You'll find that it improves your strength and confidence even more.

Answer 5

Judo does train submissions when you reach higher belts but focuses mainly on throws.  Therefore, you should be able to get a basic knowledge on chokes and guard and will get a very good knowledge on takedowns through throws.  I personally think judo is better if you get in a fight because most of the time you won't get the opportunity to apply a submission since their friends will join in, so being able to quickly throw them and still being able to move and fight would be the best. (can't say for sure since I've never trained BJJ)

Answer 6

Judo newaza is ok, it really depends on which school you go to. Some schools dedicate much more time to it than others. You can definitely develop a reasonable ground game from Judo, although as you're already aware, it can't touch BJJ. Mind you, BJJ sucks for takedowns and stand up grappling.

From an overall sport and self defense point of view, Judo is great as it covers a lot of bases (apart from striking). Throwing really is an art to be appreciated.

Answer 7

i myself do jujitsu and i love it i would recommend it to you it teaches u the throws and chokes and it would be better then judo although judo is ok  i recommend jujitsu i also teaches take downs