Kinda going off the double hit question.?

Question

if you have a simple shot, lets say 1 foot from the corner pocket, and your object ball is locked against the cueball. How can this be OFFICALLY shot, without it being considered a foul. I know a foul when i seen 1, but just curious, on what the rule books had to say about this. Can it be struck straight on, with a highly elvated cue? or is only striking it from the side, the only possible legal way? I myself don't see how it can be shot straight on, no matter the elevation, and not push or make a double hit? But i myself would not call a foul on someone, unless it is obvisoully pushed when the strike it straight on with a highly elevated cue.

Answer 1

I always thought in order for in not to be a push or double hit, you have to hit it at *I believe* 45 degree angle on the Cue ball. and no matter If it is straight on or not you should be safe if you execute the shot right. I am probably wrong, who knows

Answer 2

You're asking a rule questions so the answers here are going to depend on which rules you play by. I'm an avid APA player so I'lll use their set of rules.

If the balls are frozen together you can hit the cue ball at any angle and it will not be a foul. If the proximity of the balls are closer than the width of a piece of chalk, then the cue ball has to shot at an angel or with your cue jacked up, usually 30 degrees in either case to avoid the double hit. If you've had experience "watching" the shot to see if it's good or bad you can almost close your eyes to do it. It's usuall too fast for the eye so you "listen" for the double click instead.

There is no such thing as a "push" shot in the APA. The rule book states that while the shot/theory is controversial, they don't recognize it as any kind of foul.

Answer 3

At an angle you may not call it but a ref. will Like Tim said if any space at all a draw is an option-But after watching his videos he can do a lot of things most people cant

Answer 4

In the APA they allow you to hit straight at a ball frozen to the cue ball but you must elevate the cue at least 45 degrees. That's just the APA though, and each institution can vary.

It seems like the 'old school' rules used to allow you to hit straight at a frozen ball because a lot of older teaching material spent a lot of time discussing how to shoot and make these types of shots, but I believe current BCA rules require you to hit away from the ball completely. Different leagues and tournaments have different policies since this is kind of a gray area, so try to know the rules of the place you're playing.

EDIT: Life, I emailed the APA rules official regarding this in the past, and although it is not in the actual rulebook, they do have a rule regarding the cue ball being frozen to the object ball. You MUST elevate the cue 45 degrees (or more) or hit completely away from the ball it is frozen to. Pushing through the ball with a level cue is a foul, and hitting with a level cue at an angle is not good enough. You have to elevate the cue.

Answer 5

It's all very difficult because the definition of a push shot is not very specific and even though it mentions tip-ball contact being maintained for longer than the "momentary time commensurate with a stroked shot", being able to visually perceive this is close to impossible.

Having said that, give me a couple millimeters between the cue ball and the object ball, and I'll show you a level cue draw shot shooting into the object ball.

If they're frozen, it's different, but I'm not convinced it is necessarily a push or a double-hit if you stroke in the direction of the object ball.

Answer 6

At 90 degrees more like a throw shot if it is frozen or very close to it

Not real hard or it will throw off on you

In some cases a masse away from the cue but still hard to get the cue out of the way before the second hit and in a lot of cases a masse is not allowed

A Refs rule of thumb is if it follows the direct path of the object ball it had to be a double hit-push- shot or it would stop or veer to one side or the other but hit high enough it would not follow

Answer 7

They are right shoot away from the ball

Answer 8

sure/you can hit