Ladies and Gentlemen is this the final acheivement of all emancipation and feminism?

Question

These are the remarks that struck me and i would like to know your thoughts on this one:

In our society today most men are invisible, seen as worth less than a woman, expendable, seen as an ATM, always wrong, etc. What else did you expect?

Answer 1

Why would it be the final act?  Not that I think it is even one of them :-)

Answer 2

I also expected kids to grow up having no respect to both male and female adults and hate them, which they are doing best.

Answer 3

That's not my experience.

I think your resentment comes from the fact that you actually have to prove your worth nowadays, rather than being valued merely because of your gender.

Aren't the men's activists on here always carrying on about respect having to be earned? Go ahead. Earn our respect.

Answer 4

Women don't like that men look around and **** around as one guy put it; luckily he doesn't represent men.  I love my husband and I value him.  I am a feminist but I am not an extremist.  I want my husband, sons, nephews, brother in laws to all have rights and not be demeaned. I am sorry that is how your world looks but I have seen many great men sadly for you; a few bad apples seem to ruin the bunch.  

Judging feminist on our worst members is like us judging you by the wife beater, liar, cheat, rapist.  You wouldn't want us to do that so please don't do that to us.

Answer 5

It's certainly not what I see in my society, but I guess you'll see the world as you want to see it.

Answer 6

All right, everybody wants to be important, noticed, and valued.

But in several decades of immersion in our society, I have simply never encountered any instance at all in which I felt I was undervalued or discriminated against because I was male. It isn't a trend because the rate of occurrence is zero, just the same as it was in the '70s.

On the other hand, I have seen women treated that way, often. I not-too-respectfully offer the suggestion that what you are complaining about is a reduction in the frequency with which women are downgraded socially, which you choose to see as a loss to men because they are treated as superior a bit less often.

People in general are treated as expendable more often these days, but that happens to women at least as much as to men.

Being socially "invisible" is either your own fault or a serious indication that you need to find a new social group.

I fail to see how you can be seen as an ATM unless you treat yourself as having nothing to offer but cash.

And "always wrong" is, and always has been, a running joke, not to be taken seriously (unless, of course, you ARE always wrong, a situation you should work on).

If you, as an individual, are experiencing this treatment, perhaps you expect to be awarded social status without making the effort to earn it. Many women have figured out that they need to put something into social activities to get an ego boost out of them.

Pull yourself together, man!

Answer 7

I find that statement wrong and incredibly sad.

I love men. I like the way they look, they way the walk, and I even respect those who don't agree with me - as long as they aren't condescending about it (the last part goes for the gals too).

Answer 8

women dont like us because we like to look at other women and **** around. its what we do so they want to do it to.

Answer 9

I think it is sad and wrong.

I am a femininst, and so is my s/o. I wouldn't have been with him otherwise.  

In my world, I am treated with respect, and treat others with respect. I am a grandmother, and mother. My sons are sweet, hard-working and loving men. They love women. They get along with men. They expect women to "pull their weight" just as their mother does. They expect to be good daddies, be responsible, creative, and happy people.

They have no patience with addicts, violent people, bullies, or lazy, "entitled" people-men or women-just as I don't.

I am emancipated. I was in the Navy and raised my children. I stayed at home when my first son was a toddler, but  volunteered, and helped with income-producing hobbies, even then. I divorced an abusive man, because I COULD.

I support myself and provide some support for my s/o who is disabled. We are as equal as human beings can be. We do for each other and are very happy.

There are all sorts of people out there. BE the kind of person you respect, and surround yoruself with others you respect and love. Sometimes you will be wrong about others, sometimes, not, but you will always be RIGHT for yourself.

You think MEN are invisible, try being an older woman! Once your "s*x appeal" has pealed, you are basically valueless-in our society-but not to ME!