Log Book ? Do you have to flag location going into sleeper.?

Question

I have a co worker that states that when you log from on-duty(non drive) to Off duty (( will flag location there) but then from off-duty to sleeper berth there is no DOT rule stating that a location flag is required.... IS he right?

ending onduty(nondrive) 730am----denver,co....VI

Off Duty 745am till 930am---Denver,Co ......shower,etc

Sleeper Berth 930am till 5pm---- no location stated

Answer 1

Any time you go from any line on the log book to another line you must indicate city and state. My Dad says to just make a bracket in the remarks section for the entire time you are using the one line. he also said to offer no more info than is required....just city and state...not what you were doing when there....

Answer 2

If you went off duty in Denver, Co and then got in the sleeper berth, your location never changed so no, you dont'have to flag it there. You didn't move.

Answer 3

Anytime you log anything more than 15 minutes, you are required to log it. I.E. off duty to sleeper status...and mark it...and sleeper berth to on duty status...mark it. As a side question....ask yourself this question...if you were the D.O.T. or M.O.T. and you saw a persons log book as sleeper berth, well where did this occur? The same reasoning would be applied to the driver and not the sleeper...well where did he come on duty at? Hope this helps. A driver in Canada. I also note that you are missing 15 minutes from your log book 7:30-7:45? Regardless of whther you have a codriver or are single driver it still needs to be logged.

Answer 4

he.s wrong. ?

Answer 5

dot rule say you must flag every change in duty states

Answer 6

you should flag or bracket any change of duty status

Answer 7

as long as truck is not moving, you don't have to log all them moves. i wake up at a customer,and untarp and strap(drive a flatbed)wait until they unload me,send i my empty call(qualcomm),and when i get ready to roll, i bring line from sleeper down to driving.  that way i preserve all the 14 hours i can use in a day to my advantage....and yes...every duty status change,i have to write city and state.....if i pull off to a rest area for(you know) i draw straight line down and enter a "load check".  any more q's ?

Answer 8

As long as the vehicle did not move it can be assumed it's still at the same location, so no need for another flag.

Assuming this is a single-driver vehicle, then during on-duty(non-drive) and off-duty (clearly non-drive) periods, the vehicle can't move, thus, no separate flag is needed.

(Been auditing driver logs for bus company for several years)

Answer 9

No your change of duty status has to be reflected on your log at the same time you change.  your location has to be in the berth or in the co driver seat on duty not driving if your a trainer.

I would have shown off duty for the time in the flying J and the into the sleep berth when your co driver went to driving, so you have your 5 off and 5 on or what ever your set up to do.

enjoy the road, be safe and if you hear DJ on the CB say Hi from T-Sq.

Answer 10

He is correct.  

The law states that you must show a location whenever the truck has been moved from it's previous location.

According to the information you provided, You went off-duty in Denver at 0745.  When you went from off-duty to sleeper berth at 0930, you had not moved the truck since you quit driving at 0745, so no location flag is necessary.  You may want to "bracket" the time from 0745 to 5:00pm to show that it was all at the same location, but that isn't even necessary.  If you had moved the truck from one location to another, then yes, you would be required to flag a location for the second location, even if it's the same city.  

If in doubt, don't hesitate to write it down.  It's always better to have things written down twice than not at all, but in the case of your question, your co-worker is correct.

One thing to keep in mind when doing your logs.... The more "self-explanitory" you can make  your logs, the easier it will be for the Log auditor for your company, the police officer or Scale Master to read.  Neatness counts, so don't clutter it with useless information, but if you think it needs to be there, write it down.  Just be neat about it.

Answer 11

im guessing your talking about driving a big rid log book. my uncle has done log books for years and i've watched him and his son. they never use flags and they are ok.