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Marine Corps should be abolished because amphbious warfare is a relic of the past, how many of u agree?

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Marine Corps should be abolished because amphbious warfare is a relic of the past, how many of u agree?

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  1. Do you realize what the Marine Corps brings to the table besides an illustrious, glorious history of winning the Nation's battles?  Are you aware of its unique, combined arms (air and ground - both fixed and rotarty wing capability - the only service to have this?, i.e., one call gets it all)

    Do you even know what the core competencies of the Marine Corps are?  If not,  I list them here for your education.

    Ready to Fight and Win

    Every Marine and Marine unit is ready to rapidly task organize, deploy, and employ from CONUS or while forward deployed to respond and contain crises or, if necessary, to immediately engage in sustained combat operations.

    Expeditionary Culture

    Marines are prepared to deploy into diverse, austere, and chaotic environments on short notice and accomplish assigned missions using  unique command, control, and logistic capabilities to operate independently of

    existing infrastructure. These unique capabilities allow Marine units to enable joint, allied, coalition operations, and interagency coordination.

    Combined-Arms Operations

    Marines fight as air-ground task forces—integrated organizations of air, ground, and logistic forces under a single commander. The MAGTF commander fights a single battle

    that unites and enhances the capabilities of his force, whose whole is exponentially greater than the sum of its parts.

    Task Organized

    MAGTFs provide combatant commanders with forces that are tailored to meet specific

    mission requirements from forward presence and peacetime engagement to sustained

    operations ashore in a major theater war. Every MAGTF is a scalable force, possessing the

    ability for today’s fight and to rapidly reconfigure based on a changing situation to provide

    the right force for the next fight.

    Reserve Integration Expertise

    Ready, rapidly responsive Marine Reserve forces are a vital part of the Marine Corps and

    provide depth, flexibility, and sustainment. They are fully integrated into the active forces

    for mission accomplishment across the complex spectrum of crises and conflicts.

    Forcible Entry From the Sea

    Together, the Navy and Marine Corps provide the Nation with its primary capability to

    project and sustain power ashore in the face of armed opposition. Amphibious forces

    reinforced, if required, by maritime prepositioning forces allow the United States global access to protect our interests and reassure allies that we have the ability to come to

    their aid.

    Marines are Naval in Character

    In customs, traditions, and language, the Marine Corps’ heritage and future are tied

    closely to the Navy. We are equally at home ashore or afloat, in combat, or in other expeditionary operations.

    Joint Competency

    Whether first-on-the scene, part of, or leading a joint or multinational force, Marines

    instinctively understand the logic and synergy behind joint and multinational operations.

    Based on our experience operating as combined-arms, multidimensional MAGTFs,

    Marines seamlessly integrate into and operate as part of a joint or multinational force.

    I further list a few quotes about the power projection and capabilities of the Marine Corps by knowledgeable leaders.

    "Lying offshore, ready to act, the presence of ships and Marines sometimes means much more than just having air power or ship's fire, when it comes to deterring a crisis. And the ships and Marines may not have to do anything but lie offshore. It is hard to lie offshore with a C-141 or C-130 full of airborne troops."

    Gen. Colin Powell, U. S. Army

    Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff

    During Operation Desert Storm

    "I can't say enough about the two Marine divisions. If I use words like 'brilliant,' it would really be an under description of the absolutely superb job that they did in breaching the so-called 'impenetrable barrier.' It was a classic- absolutely classic- military breaching of a very very tough minefield, barbed wire, fire trenches-type barrier. "

    Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, U. S. Army

    Commander, Operation Desert Storm, February 1991

    "I am convinced that there is no smarter, handier, or more adaptable body of troops in the world. "

    Prime Minister of Britain, Sir Winston Churchhill


  2. What is your source?

    I have not heard amphibious warfare is a relic of the past.

    The Marines stormed the beach in Somalia.

    In 1991 Saddam didn't think amphibious warfare was a relic of the past. He tied up tends of thousands of troops anticipating Marines storming the beach.

    Leave amphibious warfare to the experts.

    "Ranger"

  3. Well, the Navy is slow, and we really don't need to control the seas any more because most commerce is transacted electronically. So we don't need the Navy.

    We're not going to need the Army or Marines because any major conflict would probably be nuclear.

    The Air Force is unnecessary because of the use of unmanned aircraft.

    So all we need is a few computer geeks with joysticks sitting in a room over some pizza place.

    Geez... I sound like a Democrat.

    Here's how I really feel:

    “Pacifists are among the most immoral of men - they make no distinction between aggression and defense. Therefore, pacifism is one of the greatest allies an aggressor can have.” (Patrick Henry)

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." (George Orwell)

    “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing that is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” (John Stewart Mill)


  4. Hehe, Ive always wondered why we just dont have, The Department of Defense Military instead of all the different branches.  This would make things so much easier and streamlined.  There really is no reason whatsoever to have the Department of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard.  

  5. When are you going to stop asking stupid questions?

  6. with or without amphibious based mission, i want the Marines on my side cause they are one incredibly badass fighting force

  7. I agree. We should make peace with the Amphibians. Newts are people too you know. Sort off.

  8. How did amphibious warfare become a relic?

    Are oceans obsolete too?

  9. Marines do much more than "amphbious" warfare.

    Here's a youtube with pictures and animation.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhzgchDbR...

  10. in war you can never be sure

    ever hear the old saying "whats old is new again" ?

    besides, they are an excellent fast reaction force.

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