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Martial artist ever get the urge to fight?

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Ned N: Good point, too. "Self Defense" changes with the times and behaviors of people.

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  1. yeah  i do as well. especially  if im around certain people thats tried to stab me in the back in some way. its all i can do not to beat their asses for the things they did to me.  


  2. I no longer have the urge to do so as I had years of defending and proving myself long before i joined jiu-jitsu and I only joined that because it scared me seeing the knowledge some people had after witnessing a class so I immediately joined to learn the advantages I was missing out on.

    Best wishes :)***

  3. omg no. if you know you can fight you want to test yourself  i feel the same way. you daydream that one day youll be walking down the street and see someone gettin robbed so you can step in and show him  a thing or two. i totally get what your saying.  your normal, your human.

  4. Katana and kempo are right on the money.i think we all feel these power full emotions at one time or another. i have and agree with both guys

  5. absolutely...we all do!

    ironically...this is where mma comes into the picture.

    why do we daydream about it? it isnt because we're bullies. it's because deep down it's all theory...guesswork...taking someone elses word for it. but...we (deep down) want to KNOW it works...we want to KNOW we can use it. we want to TEST it. ...but we're afraid to for various reasons. or we hid behind our peaceful philosophy.

    mma gives everyone the chance to prove it...to KNOW..while still being legally and morally acceptable and...relatively safe.

    i unfortunately have had to defend myself a few times, and my training never let me down...actually it ALWAYS surprised me by how well i did!

    but how much "theory" does it take?...when is it enough?....as you said...we never REALLY know. but we want to...we're just scared.

    but here are a bunch of guys bangin it out in the ring or in the cage...they KNOW what they're doing works. they KNOW what its like to really get hit. ....we should envy them.

    traditional arts are too sportive...or too theoretical. we all need, and want to test ourselves. and what other way can we do that in a legal, and morally acceptable way than through "sport competition"? ...we can't.

    we all like to bash each other...traditional vs modern...karate vs mma,...kung fu vs boxing...etc etc.

    the truth is...any one of us stepped into the cage with an even half way descent mma fighter...we'd have our *sses handed to us on a silver platter in a matter of seconds.

    i think we need to learn from that!!...i think it's time to get traditional fighting arts back where they were meant to be!!

    we've all heard stories of samurai practicing sword techniques on dead bodies. we've heard stories of jujutsu guys getting their ankles broken on the hardwood dojo floor. we've heard about the old school karate guys on okinawa meeting at night with no shirts on banging away at each other...bare knuckle and full power.

    yet practically none of us train that way..or even close. the world has become sissified. and its a shame...itll be the death of real traditional hard core martial arts. they're already dying....the way most people train...they will continue to die.

    people today are too lazy to even fix their own dinner....they'd rather just go to burger king. they're too lazy to play a game, they'd rather watch american idol.

    they dont want to train, learn, and live martial arts...they want to learn a few tricks they THINK will save their life. they want to go to class for one hour, twice a week, and thats all. no practicing after class, no working out at home.

    traditional martial arts are in a really sad state in my opinion. sure there are some good schools who teach "authentic" martial arts. but how generally speaking, we all need to get back to what these arts were supposed to be...or...define the difference once again between "do" and "jutsu" ..fighting...or the "way".

    take a long hard look at yourself, your training, and why you chose to take up martial arts over ballet, dance, or church. is it really because you want to be a better person? i doubt it. is it really because you want to get in shape? i doubt it. ...somewhere deep down we all have some sort of fascination or need to learn combat. why else would we choose such a medium?

    if all you want to do is be a better person...you can go to church...you can seek counseling.

    if you want to get in shape...you can exercise...you can lift weights, you can run.

    ask yourself truly...why then did i take up karate, judo, mma, escrima?

    and...am i really getting what i'm supposed to be getting?


  6. yeah so usually i go to the local park and defend the lil 6 7 8 & 9yr olds that the "gangsters" pick on. i do Krav Maga. its 4 defense only but idc im not gonna let them bully lil kids

  7. You RESIST the urge.

    This is a normal part of learning self discipline.

    In time, the urges will go away.

    The time involved is different for different people.

    You also resist the urge to let people know that you are a martial artist.

    This is part of the training for humility.

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  8. Yeah, I know how you feel, I remember when I was in High School this boy wanted to challenge me and I kept telling him no I won't fight.  I guess the best way to handle this is as strong as you want to find out, on the same token what you have learned during training is restraint or better yet discipline.  If you have that then you are using your training.  Plus today it's different, if you defeat someone, those knuckleheads come back with a gun nowadays...Not like it used to be, you get beat up then the following week you become friends again. Times have changed and not for the better. But yeah, I know where you are coming from. thanks.

  9. I think anyone would be lying if they never thought about trying it out to see if it will work as advertised. I have, but not so much any more, since I was attacked and found out that it is very effective for protection. I agree with Kempo to an extent, that so much has been watered down and so much of the hardcore training has been lost in many schools, unfortunatly not many realize it.

    I didn't until I had gone and watched a few tournements, and was seeing Black belts, sometimes up to 4th degree black belts, that looked like our orange and blue belts when they did techniques. There form and fighting skills were that lacking. Not boasting, just have an old school instructor.

    However I have seen a lot of schools that do train very hard and effectivly, because they get what it is going to take to enable a person to defend themselves from an attack. I also don't feel that the only way to test it is necessarilly in the ring, or a cage. There are other ways. For instance when we test someone in our school, the maximum amount of pressure is put on them, and we try and turn it into as stressful a situation as possible. Self defense is just that. They do not know what attack is coming, only that they are in danger, and attacks are done full speed and power.

    That being said I do think the ring and the cage are probably both very effective for trying out your stuff, however despite what people say, it is still not a realistic approximation of the street. It is two trained warriors going at it under a specific ruleset, under very controlled conditions. Now most MMA gyms/schools do train with much more realism then their Traditional counterparts, but not all. I am quite sure that there are now many people training at MMA gyms that are just as recreational as some traditionl schools, and I am quite sure the number of MMA's places that could be considered McDojo's are growing, due to the popularity.

    Maybe in ten years, once MMA training has been watered down to the extent many karate and tkd schools have been, people who actually train hard, such as yourselves, will be feeling like those of us who actually train traditional arts hard, and then will understand what it feels like to have something you have dedicated your life to trashed by people who really have no clue what it is about. Wouldn't it be ironic if by that time all of the karate McDojo's had burned themselves out and the only ones left were the good ones?

    Just my thoughts.

  10. I try to supress that urge as it can become quite addictive as did when i was a bit younger. It sounds horrible but when you win a fight on the street and you are out numbered or the other persons 'tooled up' or you got a chance you may lose and you knock people out, it feels good which is why i try to avoid it. As you get older and know that you can kick the sh** out of most people you just find it a lot easier to walk away and have more confidence as you have nothing to prove to anybody.

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