Martial arts in the streets. ARE YOU STUPID?

Question

Who are all these people that say there is a big difference between martial arts and fighting. These people think " In martial arts there are rules and on the street there are not so this means that on the street a martial arts guy will loose". You think we Martial artists don't know what fighting dirty means? We got in to martial arts so we could learn to fight or so we could learn to finally not fight. You think I don't know how to bite ? You think my Brazilian jujitsu makes me less capable of fighting in the street then some guy thats been in a lot of street fights. And why? cause there are no rules on the street. So you think if we got together a bunch of martial artists and pit them all against a bunch of street tuffs obviously the street tuffs would win cause there are no rules. Explain your self and for once try to remember that a martial artist knows what a groin shot is weather he went to a krav maga class or not.

You may know martial arts but you don't know how to fight WHAT

Answer 1

one of the problems is that many martial arts ignore the realities of street violence. training in gi's lining up and shaking hands or bowing before practicing ritualised moves is not how street violence occurs.

im not saying martial arts are useless on the street, im just saying that they need to be trained in a way that reflects how street violence occurs. one of the most lacking aspects of many schools of martial arts training is the neglect of teaching awareness. some martial arts schools / self protection do tailor for the streets, especially instructors including but not limited to tony blauer, bob spour, richard grannon, ken curran, travis faure and geoff thompson.

Answer 2

Well, I see your point. I saw a black belt get beat by a street fighter. However, it's highly dependant on the people involved. I began martial arts (Tae Kwon Do) at age 11, and unfortunately have been involved in a number of street fights which I could not walk away from.

One of the things about street fighters which I use to my advantage is to allow them to approach. When they think they're still completely out of my range I'll kick them... HARD. lol

Answer 3

I don't know about all martial arts, but in Taekwondo, we're taught real-world situations and how to deal with them. If someone throws a punch at you, what do you do? That's what we learn. Yes, sparring has rules, but sometimes, we do stuff like that in class to teach us how do handle stuff like street fighting.

So, if you got a bunch of Taekwondo people and a bunch of 'street tuffs', the martial artists would most likley win.

Answer 4

a street figher is a type of martial artist. Someone trianed to fight even if only used to a particular style has a good shot at surviving as opposed to one with no martial arts background

Answer 5

Martial arts is used in case you get attack by street fighters come on if you lose to street fighters get stronger and come back.

Answer 6

So the question is, do you learn faster in the school of hard knocks or just in school?

There are many physically talented people who can become talented fighters just by practicing fighting, but there is a reason that martial arts have been taught for thousands of years- and that is because they work.  In martial arts, hard work beats talent (thank you Syun Matsuena!), while in street fighting, talent wins.  That means that street fighting has no finesse- no joint locks, no pressure point strikes, etc.  One on one, a skilled martial artist will win, hands down.

However many martial art schools don't teach anything related to actually fighting beyond some basic sparring, some martial arts are only focused on sports sparring, and some have a too heavy emphasis on forms instead of application.

A properly trained martial artist can beat a street fighter, because you are trained in how that person will fight, how their body works, and how to take them down.  That doesn't mean they won't get a few hits in before they drop.

Answer 7

Your post is very confusing.

I can't figure out what you are asking, or if you are asking something.

I have learned from some of the best Instructors in the country and the one thing they have in common is that martial arts is not fighting.

It is not a struggle but the way to stop hostile attacks.

One thing you have to take into consideration is the view they have of a particular art. They might see that "demonstration XMA" bull-doodoo and believe that all martial arts are represented by that.

My Teachers always taught us "Life-Protection Skills".

When we competed, we were always disqualified for illegal techniques - "extremely excessive contact". Competing was for the experience of human exchange.

Of course we didn't strike to the groin but would lock-out many tournament trained opponents.

When our Dojo was "visited" by others, Sensei would let us know and we would amp-up the energy on the floor - I would beat the Machiwara, other students would get into "our style" of kumite. The "visiting" instructor would always wind up saying,  "I wanted to come by and say hi"... with your students?

A typical class at our dojo was pretty scary by today's standards. People were afraid to "shiai" with us.

My point is, it depends on who you learned from. If your teacher is tournament trained, that's what you will learn. If your Teacher is "street" experienced, you will be "street" trained.

When you have to fight all your Seniors and afterwards, fight any and all outsiders brought in for your promotions, you understand what an a s s-whipping is. You tend to take it out on the visiting opponents, without making it so obvious.

Answer 8

the martial artist would always win, because its easier to fight with no rules.

Answer 9

i've been doing boxing,kung fu and kick boxing for over 20 years and have been a doorman in Manchester also known as gunchester and have fought many fights in the ring and on the streets since i was a young kid.I've been fighting on the streets of Manchester i've been thrown out of all my schools for fighting there was no school that would take me, so i turned to what i know best for my salvation(fighting) and i know if i was not as skilled as i am i would not be talking to you right now. So i know martial arts work maybe not for everyone but for most.Trust me i know what i'm on about.

Answer 10

you are dumb martial arts doesnt mean ****

Answer 11

Well all Iknow is that when I took martial arts I learned a great deal of real world situations to use it and not just a fight. even in a fight self-defense is the first key to victory.

Answer 12

Well they do have a point. Fighting in a ring or dojo are completely different then fighting in the streets. When fighting in a dojo or ring, there boundries such as rules that prevent your opponent from going as hard as can. In a ring it would be a fair fight but not in the streets. In the streets its never fair. Street fighters attack with reckless, unpredictable, and unstable movement making it hard to defend. When it comes to a street fight, there are three major weaknesses of a martial artist: not focused, not calm, think highly. A way a martial artist can easily defeat a street fighter is to simply stop toying around with him and kill him without a moments hesitation.At least 90% of all street fighters lose so I have no clue what these people are talking about. But I dont care street fighters always lose because of their ignorance. Dont worry about those people, they have no clue what martial arts is about. Me and you, we learn it to fight and defend so just ignore them.

PS. brazilian jujitsu's cool