Men paying for all dates and chivalry started back then for a reason. Why is it still enforced now ?

Question

Chivalrous acts and pay for women all the time were put in place because women weren't allow opportunities to make money like men and majority women were housewives. Now women have opportunities to do and be whatever like men, make money on a higher scale than b4 , Why do men continue to pay for every date in the relationship even though the women has money to ? People say tradition and cause he's a gentleman. What BS excuses most women say. Tradition was made for reason all ready stated early, now that women make/can make good money and are equals this TRADITION should be trashed for a updated TRADITION that's suited to whats going on TODAY NOT BACK THEN .Gentleman....so a man isn't a gentleman if he doesn't pay for most or all dates or treats you like a queen from day one without reciprocating back ( not talking bout s*x)...really . Women stop TAKING ADVANTAGE of men . Men stop treating women with chivalry just treat her with respect..that's it. Want do y'all think ?

Answer 1

I've been saying no to chivalry for two or three years now (I'm 18). The only downside is that the guy I'm seeing would rather participate in it.

Answer 2

You are generalizing.  Most women actually do contribute to date expenses, certainly feminists do.  I believe only the Cinderella wannabes these days are still looking for a meal-ticket.  I actually always pay for everything when I date because I have money and in my circle of friends money isn't a factor in courtship rituals.  And, the older men and women get the less they are into those weirdo Cinderella / Prince Charming acculturations.  Men and women get treated exactly as they "ask" to be treated in that they are attracted to and seek out exactly the kind of people they want to date.  When people seek out abusive partners, they get abused.  What they need to ask themselves is why are they seeking out only the kind of people who exploit them or abuse them because, by far, those kinds of people aren't the only ones out there.  What makes me laugh are the guys who whine about "gold-diggers" and yet persistently only seek out helpless financially weak women.

Answer 3

Whoever asked for the date should pay.  End of story.

...and I do agree that common courtesy goes far, regardless of gender.

Answer 4

You've got to be kidding.  I want the door opened for me and I want my dinner paid for by the man who invited me out to dinner.  I even believe that the man should support the family and not the wife.

A woman is a weaker vessel than a man.  The scrawniest man is normally stronger than a woman.  God made us that way.  In this beautiful world there is nothing better than a gentleman and a lady.  Both receive respect just because their track record of being a gentleman and being a lady stands out.  A good man and a good woman are truly hard to find in today's world.  A chivalrous man is honest, courteous and generous and this will touch the heart of almost any woman.

When a man quits treating his women courteously and generously, then his dates will be few and far between.

Answer 5

To be completly honest with you I am offended that you are implying that I am taking advantage of my boyfriend of 2 years because he pays for almost all of the dates.  If he wanted to go 50/50 on the dates I would be totaly cool with that too.  To him he feels that it is his dutey, his way showing that he cares, to pay for dates.  Have I tried to pay? Yes, but he gets extremely upset with himself every time because he was raised that it is a sign of respect to the woman to pay for her meals and what not.  Also, him and I are both aware and accepting of the fact that he does make more money then me and I can't afford to pay for dates alot of the time.  If he can and wants to then what the heck is wrong with that?  It's not an act of being dependent or weak.  To me it's an act of respect to LET him pay.  On the rare occasion that I have more money on me then he does, then I have no problem paying, but he does have a problem with it because he feels guilty and like it's just not right.  In our case him paying for the dates is just one small way he shows he respects me, and my letting him pay for the dates is one way I let him know that I respect him.

Answer 6

Since most jobs still want to give men the higher paying opportunities, let them pay for dinner.  If they want a woman, let them earn it by taking her out to nice restaurants and other places she likes.

If a woman wants to go dutch and both people agree, then that's okay.  And yes, I see more chivalrous women than men these days.

Answer 7

I agree with you but to me chivalry is not something that only men do, its something we all do, and yes, its more exact name is common courtesy.  And you are correct, we must always remember the historical dynamics when we discuss these issues.  Most had a very valid or practical reason for existing.

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chiv·al·ry Audio Help /ˈʃɪvəlri/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[shiv-uhl-ree] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun, plural -ries for 6. 1. the sum of the ideal qualifications of a knight, including courtesy, generosity, valor, and dexterity in arms.

2. the rules and customs of medieval knighthood.

3. the medieval system or institution of knighthood.

4. a group of knights.

5. gallant warriors or gentlemen: fair ladies and noble chivalry.

6. Archaic. a chivalrous act; gallant deed.

[Middle English chivalrie, from Old French chevalerie, from chevalier, knight; see chevalier.]

Word History: The Age of Chivalry was also the age of the horse. Bedecked in elaborate armor and other trappings, horses were certainly well dressed, although they might have wished for lighter loads. That the horse should be featured so prominently during the Age of Chivalry is etymologically appropriate, because chivalry goes back to the Latin word caballus, "horse, especially a riding horse or packhorse." Borrowed from French, as were so many other important words having to do with medieval English culture, the English word chivalry is first recorded in works composed around the beginning of the 14th century and is found in several senses, including "a body of armored mounted warriors serving a lord" and "knighthood as a ceremonially conferred rank in the social system." Our modern sense, "the medieval system of knighthood," could not exist until the passage of several centuries had allowed the perspective for such a conceptualization, with this sense being recorded first in 1765.

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Main Entry: courtesy

Part of Speech: adjective

Synonyms: affable, attentive, chivalric, chivalrous, complimentary, courteous, debonaire, deferential, gratis, hospitable, ingratiating, obeisant, obsequious, parliamentary, servile, suave, urbane

Answer 8

Respect is good enough for me.  I don't demand anything, but men do sometimes want to be chivalrous because it makes them feel manly and like they are treating the woman how a real man should.  Again, that is what MEN HAVE TOLD ME.  I don't need chivalry from a man.

Answer 9

It continues to the present day because of the commoditization of the v****a and the resulting market manipulation of the cooter cartel.

Answer 10

Equal rights without equal accountability and responsibility.

Answer 11

Men don't get equal treatment because we can put up with a harder path than weak women. Weak women (aka feminists) want things BOTH ways. They are "I am woman hear me roar" when it suits their needs and "please help me..I'm a woman" when it suits their needs.  Women are just taking advantage of socially accepted concepts of today, even if they pursue the hypocrisy that is feminism, they benefit from it.  It's called being opportunistic.  A person with a connection to Harvard won't give up his place to make way for someone more deserving, same with women..they will take affirmative action to advance their career or college placement and then expect and DEMAND handouts throughout the rest of their careers.  Men just get to deal with it and pay for the sins of their forefathers.  It's no big deal because in the end men don't have to be illogical, a slave to fashion, have periods, and we can pee our name in the snow.