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Messerchmitt 109 versus Fock Wulf 190/TA152. Which one is a better aircraft ?

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FYI: Me109 was the preferred aircraft of aces like Erich Hartmann

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  1. The Fock Wulf 190 is a better aircraft

    It was better in many respects

    -better, stronger, engine

    -faster (because of the engine

    -higher ceiling (higher max altitude, because of the engine)

    -carried heavier load (in bombs, rockets, or gun pods)

    -more guns/cannons

    -longer range

    -maneuverability

    -stronger airframe/durability aka higher survivability in combat ( some 190s have been known to fly back to base with half of one wing missing.)

    the 109 had a big shortcoming and that was its range. It could not escort Luftwaffe bombers all the way to England, provide cover for them and then fly back to their bases in France.

      Its standard armament of two machine guns and 1 cannon  was also found to be insufficient. Gun pods were usually added but they had a tendency to jam during high G maneuvering.

    Compared like so, the FW190 is the clear winner.

    Of course, each pilot has his or her own preferences and only the pilots themselves could tell you why they like one over the other.

    Each plane has its own nuances, its own problems and its own way of handling. It always depends on the person flying it.

    As long as it does the job, its a great airplane. And if the 190 and the 109 both did the jobs they were designed to do, then they were both great airplanes. Which truly is the "better" airplane depends on the pilot flying it.


  2. The Ta152,long nose Focke Wolf  was the fastest,most heavily armed,versatile piston engined aircraft serving with the Luftwaffe.

    It had a higher ceiling,better range and in the Jabo (Fighter-bomber) role carried a heavier load.

    No contest compared with the Me 109,the Fw was far and away superior.

  3. The FW

  4. Luftwaffe pilots who had flown all three, said the Ta-152 was by far the better aircraft.

    Woody:  the Ta-152 and the Fw-190D (long nose) are different aircraft.

    The Ta 152H was among the fastest piston-engined fighters of the war, capable of speeds up to 755 km/h (472 mph) at 13,500 m (41,000 feet, using the GM-1 boost) and 560 km/h (350 mph) at sea level (using the MW-50 boost). To help it attain this speed it used the MW 50 water-methanol injection system mainly for lower altitudes (up to about 10,000 m or 32,800 ft) and the GM-1 nitrous oxide injection system for higher altitudes, although both systems could be engaged at the same time. The Ta 152 was one of the first aircraft specifically designed to employ a nitrous oxide power boost system.

    In late 1944, Kurt Tank reported that while flying an unarmed Ta 152H to a meeting at the Focke-Wulf plant in Cottbus, he saw four P-51 Mustangs. He made his escape by engaging the MW 50 boost, opening the throttle wide to gain maximum speed to escape the enemy fighters, and left the four Mustangs behind him. There is no evidence from Allied reports that these P-51s ever saw him.

    The H-model had heavy armament to allow it to deal quickly with enemy aircraft. It had three cannon firing through the propeller arc: one MK 108 30 mm Motorkanone cannon centered within the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 20 mm cannons located in the wing roots.

    The C-model was designed to operate at lower altitudes than the H-model, and had even heavier armament consisting of one MK 108 30 mm Motorkanone cannon firing through the propeller hub, and four MG 151/20 20 mm cannons. Two of the 20 mm cannons were mounted above the engine (in the engine cowling), and the other two in the wing roots. The Ta 152 C could destroy the heaviest enemy bombers with a short burst but the added weight decreased speed and rate of turn.

    It was more maneuverable than either the 109 or the 190.

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