Milking in Animal Rights, Can you rate it?

Question

I'm a vegan but uses animal products that don't make them hurt or suffer like urea(from animal urine) as fertilizer. Your answer will make me convert to lacto-vegetarian or not to convert.

-5They hurt to much

-4Its bad for their health

-3They hurt not that much

-2They worry cause they have very little milk to give to their babies

-1They are Tickled

±0Noting happens to them.

+1They are happy

+2Its good for their health

Answer 1

-5They hurt to much

Modern Dairy Industry

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Whatsoever reason we could justify we are right, i think it is obviously wrong "rapping" them or "stealing" their milk. Who are we d**n humananimal to decide on their behalf? Would you agree if someone else dominate over you?

There is an annoying connection made by many people that the way things are going is necessarily good, and/or inevitable. Perhaps the current trends are bad, and the future will not be as good as it could be. Perhaps things are heading a certain way, but this does not mean that we are powerless to stop them, nor does it mean that we should not try. This argument does not work either. One has to supply actual reason for vegetarianism, and this is not a reason, it is just an excuse at best.

Answer 2

Cows are impregnated annually to keep the milk flowing.  They are given hormones so they produce more milk than they would naturally...up to 3 times more...The babies are then used for veal if they are boys.

At a few years old, their milk production slows.  Then they are sent to slaughter.  That is where the US gets most of their fast food beef.  By the time they get to auction or slaughter sometimes they can barely walk from all the weight they have to carry around their whole lives from the extra milk.

The baby cows don't get their mother's milk.  They are taken very soon after birth and put on a high calorie formula to make them grow faster.  The Mother and baby often go crazy when they are separated.

There is pus in milk.  It's not a myth.  Google "milk pus".  The government has a limit of how much pus can be in milk.  Milk has also been linked to ovarian cancer.

Answer 3

+2 cows enjoy giving milk.

Answer 4

We drink milk.  We do not like how animals are treated at commercial dairy farms, or the drugs that are stuffed into them.

For that reason, we have our own dairy goats, we milk.  The kids (baby goats) the does (mama goats) produce are allowed to stay with their mothers.  The goats produce enough milk to share with us, and raise their kids themselves.

If you have not been drinking milk, eating cheese, yogurt, or ice cream in a number of years, you may have problems if you start.  

The enzymes in your body may not be able to digest milk (which means painful, stinky gas).

Cheese and yogurt are fine for people who are lactose intolerant.  The fermentation process of making cheese, or yogurt eats the lactose sugars, so no lactose intolerance problems.

Milk, and ice cream have plenty of lactose in them.

If you switch back to drinking milk, and eating milk products, try to find a small farmer, who treats his/her animals kindly and gives them as natural a life as possible.  

If you care to post your state, I can look up for you if raw milk sales are legal (meaning you can buy directly from the farmer).  

You can also learn to make your own cheese at home, which contains NO rennet...it's very easy.

~Garnet

Permaculture homesteading/farming over 20 years

In favor of milk, from TRULY humane sources.

Answer 5

-5

The cows, to be able to produce milk, are forcefully impregnated (with equipment known to farmers as the rape rack). When they give birth, the calves are either shot or sent off to be grown as veil (raised in a crate and malnourished for a few weeks before being killed). The mothers are intensely milked, selectively bred and genetically engineered so much that they produce around 10 times as much milk as their wild counterparts, causing their mammary glands to become very swollen and sag, causing them immense pain. The milking also causes mastitis in many, a painful udder infection, which causes trace amounts of blood and pus to enter the milk. It is said that cows are forced to do the equivalent of 6 hours jogging a day. Imagine doing a dairy marathon at knife-point! Because of this, they become absolutely exhausted before they have barely reached adulthood. At around four years of age, the 'spent' mothers milk production declines. Of no more use to the farmer, they are sent to the slaughterhouse, sometimes still in-calf, spilling milk on the killing floor. This happens to all cows, regardless of what 'humane' system they are raised in. Rape, kidnap, abuse and murder are against the most basic of animals' rights, where as drinking milk is completely uneccesary and as much reliable research suggests, unhealthy. There are plenty of alternatives so there is no need to cause so much suffering to the defenceless animals.

I really hope you will find out more about this and make up your own mind, and not change your lifestyle according to the ratings of a bunch of people on the Internet!

With the best intentions,

Tim

Answer 6

I purchase milk from a local provider that does not use hormones or milking machines. The milk is 100% organic, but he does have it pasteurized for safety. Milking the animal is necessary if it is producing milk, but keeping all of your cows pregnant all the time to produce milk, over milking them in bad conditions, and milking machines are cruel. The provider I get my milk from let me come tour his farm, where he usually has about 30 pregnant female cows at any time, and about 30 non pregnant female cows. He also raises free range bulls as well. He sells the milk and also cuts of beef, and I think cruelty-free is the way to be if you're going to be using animal products. I will not use leather or fur because it's unnecessary, or any animal product that was the result of an inhumane and cruel process where the animal was mistreated before it was slaughtered for food or produced whatever product I will be using (like milk).

Milking machines for normal milk you buy in the supermarket are not humane, they milk too hard and too much, and they are in bad conditions and the cows are induced to produce with hormones and drugs.

Answer 7

I'd say 0 and  +2. Mammals often produce too much milk and milking alleviates some of the stress.

Yup. I'm a meat eater and a lactose intolerant milk drinker.

Answer 8

1. Milking machines are not cruel. They are made to replicate the sucking motion of calves, unlike handmilking which squeezes and pulls.

Calves can be very rough on cows teats as well. Machines are developed for the health and safety of the cows.

2. Most cows are free bred by a bull. Just like buffaloes in nature.

3. If you are concerned about cow comfort and safety visit a dairy farm that sells milk and check it out for yourself. Or look into the Humane certification.

4. Cows happily come into the barn to be milked. They like the routine, they like getting relieved of their milk, they like the grain.

5. Most cows are not given synthetic hormones.

6. Dairy animals are dairy animals because they produce more milk than their babies need.

Answer 9

0

And also +1 if animals can be considered "happy".  I think "content" is about as high up the happiness scale a cow gets.  I've never really seen one jump for joy or anything.