Modern feminism: has it strayed from it's original context or are we just seeing a backlash of women who may?

Question

have been the product of some hardcore militant feminists. I asked a few questions this morning and received some rather cruel feedback. I hope all feminists support a woman's choice to live her life as she sees fit. Is that idea still alive? Working mothers, SAHM's, childless women all should be on the same page, yes or no?!

Answer 1

I did not say you were wrong.  I don't think anyone was cruel.  You can live your life as you see fit as long as you give me the same.  (Lots of militant SAHM's tell us by working that we did not do whats best for our children).   I raised my children well - they are successful in their own right.  

Answer 2

Feminists want women to have the choice... so long as they choose career over family every time.

Anyone who doesn't agree is a traitor to The Movement.

Answer 3

is feminist agenda the only subject in womens studys?. becuase thats how it seems in this forum...

All I see now is feminist Pro or con Questions

Answer 4

The militants run the show and the rest just try and pretend that they don't  : )

A woman's right to self serve comes first.

Answer 5

It's very difficult to judge the emotion with which a post was written on the internet.  

That said, I think both sides can be cruel to the other.  You had to revise (or repost) your first question because to some people (myself included), it sounded like you said women who waited to have children were "selfish".  Maybe those of us who chose to wait feel that you were being judgmental, with your multiple postings of how SAHMs are better.  

Answer 6

Modern (?) is this the same as post feminist? If so, we                    , including the classic feminists have a long way to go.  The post feminists appear to be satisfied as things are.  When I see as many women holding  high political office as men, birth control cost is paid by health insurance like Viagra, when women get equal pay for equal work and working families get tax credits for day care I may be satisfied.  Most importantly when we are no longer perceived as so weak by the media and the establishment that they wouldn't dare bash the woman, Hillary Clinton, most qualified to be President, we will have achieved equality.

As a closer, when women  who stay home with their young children earn social security credits our society will finally be on track!

Answer 7

You asked how I felt about my daughter doing such, which is a different matter from all women.  My daughter is a different matter.

Course women have the right to choose, between sahm or career.  I can full heartily support that right to choice and never want such for my daughter or myself. I can support the choice and still think it's stupid, thats my right as well.

Same as people can choose to have tiny nasty snippy dogs, personally I hate em, and dont get the point of having a dog the size of a tater....but it's their choice....who am I to tell them no?  

Answer 8

Most feminists will tell you that they support every woman's choices, provided that they are legal, of course. But those feminists don't get a good deal of press.

Answer 9

You didn't receive "cruel" answers.  If so many people gave you answers you didn't like, your question was ambiguous.  And as I told you, using the word "selfish" implied a "cruel" value judgment on your part.

Feminism has always been about choice, despite what the boneheads here say, and the necessity for a woman to accept responsibility for those choices.  I always wonder about the "hardcore militant feminists" I hear about here, because I don't hear about them anywhere else.  What was said 30, 40 years ago does not apply to  today (despite what the boneheads say).

It's not a backlash.  Feminism is still growing and changing to fit the needs of modern society, and that's a good thing (despite what the boneheads say).  Ideas that don't work will be dumped; those that do will be adapted.  Yes, all women should be on the same page as regards their choices for motherhood, and we should all support each other.  We should.  But most of the time we don't, and that's not a feminist/anti-feminist issue but a reflection of the intensely personal of the motherhood choice.  

You implied that it is better to have children young when your eggs are more viable, and pursue your education later.  That's up to an individual to decide; your way isn't "better" than anyone else's.  Those cruel answers to which you refer may have been reacting to what did come across as a supercilious tone of the question.

Now could you please give it a rest?  Thanks.  The intelligent people here will continue to give you pretty much the same answers, and the trolls and the boneheads will continue to pee all over themselves.

ETA:  "Women who establish their career before having children: what is your opinion on them? Is is selfish that?

they wait so long, they are often infertile as a result or does having a passionate pursuit being fulfilled mean they might be better parents than if they had had kids first?"

Hmm, that's a pretty harsh judgment against older mothers.  Backpedaling when you're called on it won't help your case.  If you don't like my answers, then block me.  But asking the same thing over and over again won't help your case or make you seem more sympathetic.  Your agenda will always bleed through.

Answer 10

"Modern feminism: has it strayed from it's original context or are we just seeing a backlash of women who may?

have been the product of some hardcore militant feminists"

I agree with you on that.  I think that, just like in every kind of group there is, you have people who stick to the original purpose and you have those that use the groups values and beliefs to defend their ignorance.  

" I hope all feminists support a woman's choice to live her life as she sees fit. Is that idea still alive? Working mothers, SAHM's, childless women all should be on the same page, yes or no?!"

I'm a feminist, and while I do have a certain opinion on SAHP's, I try to respect the fact that everyone doesn't think the way I do.  

"If that means a working mother, that's fine too, just don't tell me it's wrong to be an SAHM because you can't find value in it."

Well, in all fairness, you did make some rather ignorant comments about working mothers.  You made it seem that they're some how selfish for being career minded and wanting to establish their careers before having children.

Here's how I see it: if you want to stay home with your kids, fine, but don't assume that everyone thinks that way or that it's somehow a woman's 'job' or 'role' in life.  I'm not saying that you said this, but this is directed to other people on this board who made it seem that way.

EDIT: homegirl

Health insurance pays for Viagra??  WTF?