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Mosley wins confidence vote in Paris, is this the right or wrong decision?

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in my view what he does in his private life is up to him ,i am sure there are other high profile men and women out there who get up to things they want kept private!

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  1. I am really torn on this issue.  I'm not a fan of Max and I personally would like to see him go.

    The only person who has been wronged by his actions are his wife.  I don't see any 'n**i' connotations in his lurid romps, all I see is a typical sub/dom scene.

    On the other hand, by having this kind of thing exposed so publicly his position within the global community has been undermined.  Because of this I think it will be impossible for him to continue as an effective president of the FIA.

    Max should have followed Bernie's suggestion.  Take 6 months to find a replacement and have a sensible hand-over period.


  2. i think right now he has more problems at home than with the FIA.if his contemporaries have a problem with their confidence in him they would have gotten rid of him long ago,but right now he probably has a loose bobcat waiting for him at home who is sharpening her claws.

  3. this was probably one of the sadest days in F1 history.. he should never have won that vote!!! look at the list of countries that sent in letters asking him to resign

    - USA (AAA and AATA)

    -- Singapore (AAS)

    -- Germany (ADAC)

    -- Finland (AL)

    -- Canada (CAA)

    -- Brazil (CCB)

    -- Denmark (FDM)

    -- France (FFA)

    -- India (FIAA)

    -- Japan (JAF)

    -- The Netherlands (KNAC)

    -- Sweden (M)

    -- Hungary (MAK)

    -- Israel (MEMSI)

    -- Austria (OEMTC)

    -- Spain (RACC and RACE)

    -- Belgium (TCB)

    -- Switzerland (TCS)

    -- Russia.

    8 of those already host GPs, and 2 of them are planning to enter a GP soon! the AAA is already planning to pull out of the FIA (doubt it will deal a big blow.. since the US doesnt host anything at this point) but hopefully the other countries will follow.

    truth is, not many people i know who follow F1 really care about the whole n**i hooker scandal thing.. we really dont give a flying fish about it! we just dont want Mad Max in there any longer to throw around more ridiculous restrictions that INCREASE the cost instead of cutting it.. those idiots are going completely backwards with their thinking, the more retarded restrictions you throw into the sport just moves the money someplace else.  for instance, the engine freeze.. that just made teams build multi million dollar wind tunnels! cut cost where? now with new aero regulations coming in 2009 im expecting teams to build a new facility dedicated to KERS development, or maximizing the performance from the slick tires. and soon their going to create new engine regulations, YA make the teams spend even MORE money to build a new spec engine! and in the end lets just have all the teams run Ferrari's 2011 car from now on! reduce cost drastically and turn the sport into a global version of INDY, woot!

    freaking FIA = turds

  4. Well what he does in Private is nobody's business , however perhaps HE should offer his resignation.

    Pretending to be a n**i and getting sexual gratification from it is hardly what you would expect to see on the CV of a CEO.

  5. He won with a clear majority, so it wasn't like he had to scratch and claw for his job.  

    What he did in his own time was his business.  As far as I know he did not break any laws.

    The more serious implication for F1 is if he was set up by someone involved in the sport.  That is being investigated at the moment.

  6. I've seen the video and it is embarrassing to think that this idiot is representing Britian in the F1 world.

    If he had any decency (which he hasn't ) he should go.

  7. The British press are a disgrace. Over the years they have "outed" people, indulged in blatant gossip, cynically sold newspapers on the basis of scandal and generally acted badly. Unfortunately for Mr Moseley, he has become  victim to that sort of so-called journalism.

    I quite admire his stand against this and the victory he has scored, but there is a problem.

    The problem isn't really about a mature gentleman indulging in sexual fantasy and role-play; which lots of judges, lawyers, doctors and politicians probably often do in their spare time. The problem is one of current "taboos," which nowadays seem to include things like paedophile behaviour for instance. There was a time when homosexuality (now almost respectable) was seen as "the unspeakable vice of the ancient Greeks."

    Max Moseley MUST understand, that any reference to "n**i" practice will seriously offend a great many people; not least anyone with a Jewish connection, a Polish connection and perhaps even a modern German connection. It would also offend those of a liberal disposition, with a long history of human rights activism, such as the people of the Netherlands. The inclusion of prostitution would also officially (rather than privately), offend against the Muslim countries, which are an increasing force in world motor-sport.

    It isn't nit-picking (Oh God!), to suggest that this sort of taboo is not only offensive, it is potentially very damaging to motor-sport. If you're a Jewish, Muslim, Polish or Dutch businessman, the last thing you want to be associated with, is a sport which has, at its head, a man who offends you, your business and your clients, and which will bring bad publicity.

    Personally, I hate this sort of thing, because no-one should be hunted down by the press-wolves and forced out of office if what they do is at least legal and in private. However, once it has happened, there is no going back, and this is one of the hazards of a high-profile position, such as occupied by Max Moseley.

    Sometimes, the greater good is served if the top man tenders his resignation, and that this is accepted gracefully. It's what happens in big business, when in order to prevent bad-press, speculation and charges of bad-management, chief executives "resign" on the grounds of "ill-health" or for "personal reasons." They are actually fulfilling a duty of care and professional expectation, and saving their organisation from further embarassment or compromise.

    On this basis, I believe that Mr Moseley should have resigned, rather than drag the FIA with him into the bear-pit.

  8. There was no 'n**i' connotation, a bad German accent was as bad as it got and has only been perpetuated due to his father, Sir Oswald Mosley being the leader of the Blackshirts (British Fascists) in the 1930's

    (I have seen the video, and that man can take an obscene amount of beating)

    The only 'crime' Max is guilty of is being unfaithful to his wife, being a m*******t and visiting call girls. Understandably, this does not sit comfortably with some and I can understand calls for his resignation. But his contemporaries getting holier than thou is just as sickening, it would be fair to say that maybe they have proclivities they wouldn't want splashed over the Sunday rags, but would it make them any less able to carry out their job? Unlikely.

    I can see him retiring from the post at the FiA at the end of the year. I'm sure the News of the (Screws) World will make his life a living h**l as he continues with his libel action and will make the motoring organisations more uncomfortable and unsettled.

  9. video all over net.

    he only won by the minor countries having same one vote as the 40 or so major countries.

    ridiculous decision. it will end badly still

  10. I think it was less a vote for Mosley than against Bernie.

  11. Goes to show Mosley has no shame or pride, yes it was nothing to do with his job but for the sake of common decency I  thought Max would of resigned by now.

  12. Well the people that voted are the people that matter as they make up the delegates of the FIA. Personally I think he should stay, however for the good of the sport I think he should have gone. It doesn't matter what we think, the delegates have spoken.

  13. I saw the video, no n**i symbols or anything. just tarts in kinky boots and flat caps. just the normal stuff you could by in any bondage or s*x shop!!!

    He was a man of position, who, committed a crime. People have been sacked for less. Had he not been a married man it might not have been so bad. Its his family I feel sorry for, after all with all this media attention how are they meant to start picking up the pieces

  14. What people do in there life is indeed up to them.  

    But if its being a racist git, then you should expect not to be popular.

    Cos after all, we in our private lives are aloud to hate racism!

    He should not be aloud to work!

  15. It  is the wrong decision and may come back to haunt the delegates. It is not over yet, pressure is still on him to resign, there could be serious repercussions to follow if Germany USA and many other of the teams withdraw support for the FIA that will affect sponsorship and could have a knock effect for the future of Formula 1.

  16. What he does in his private life is up to him as long as it does not interfere with his duties.

  17. right decision, what he does in his private life has nothing to do with anybody....except the newspaper

  18. Some people are in the opinion that what he does in his private life should have no implications on his working life. Like, his private life is non of our business. But some feel that as FIA president, he should have proper conduct no matter what.

    I'm still trying to figure out if it's a good thing or not he's staying though I'm more inclined to the latter. Some of his cost cutting measures are not agreeable IMHO

  19. I wish that his private life could stay just that, private, but sadly it can't. He should have apologised immediately for the adulterous act and not defended himself, then he could have salvaged some dignity, and resigned gracefully before his hearing.

    Unfortunately, he has ruined the FIA's credibility and he cannot recover.

  20. It's not good for his and FIA's image. How can someone be a respected and authoritative president, when as soon as he turns his back, people will be laughing about him? By allowing him to continue as the president, FIA is sending out a message that they condone the kind of activity Max got up to.

    I think Bernie's concern is that due to the bad image, F1 will suffer as a result of sponsors distancing themselves from it. Even though Bernie was never too keen on returning to USA (for F1 race), The withdrawal of AAA is not going to do any favours for him in terms of opening up the US market. The Germans aren't happy either. Michael has retired, and now this has happened with Max.....they will lose more German audience after this saga.

    Max is a very astute thinker, and I respect what he has done for F1 as the FIA president. He should see the big picture and stand down. But it has gotten just a bit too personal, and has clouded his judgment a little, I reckon....

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