Most overvalued NLHE hands?

Question

I hate AK. I have overvalued so many times and been busted by 44. I think it should be played, but dropped after the flop.

I also hate A with 6-9. No chance for connecting and if you catch the A, you stand a very good chance of getting busted by a better K if there was any betting pre-flop. I won't play these unless it's cheap anymore.

Others?

Answer 1

JJ is a HORRIBLY over rated hand

Answer 2

QJ - It's hard to tell where you are with that hand.  I also think J10 is a little overrated too.  Both those hands you have to hit hard to keep playing them in my opinion.  If I hit a bare jack on the flop and there is a significant bet, I'm never too confident in that hand.

Answer 3

Far and away the J 10 suited or not. How many times have you been sitting at the table and heard someone to your left or right say "ooooooo I have my favorite hand" They play it like it was the nuts and it turnes out to be Jack 10. I would rather contract eye herpes that get involved in a big pot with Jack 10.

Answer 4

The most overvalued hands are ones that are dominated.  An example would be KQ versus AK and a K comes on the flop.

If you hate AK then you should learn when and how to lay a hand down if you want to continue to play poker.

Answer 5

I'd say just about any pocket pair lower than 10's.  You see so many people go all in pre-flop with 6's or other junk and end up broke.  Also hands like K J, K 10, Q 10 etc.  look good on the surface but are losers in the long run.

Answer 6

K J suited is the hand that the pros will tell you is the best way to lose your chips. And the hand that most newer players will get busted with. It looks so good, but it can be so deadly.

As for AK, this is a powerful hand, and it all depends on the type of table and game you are at. In a freeroll tournament, AK has a lot less value, since there will be callers and chasers.

In a tight ring game for medium to high stakes, AK is a great hand to raise big with. You can chase out the smaller pairs and hope to get called by someone with AQ or AJ, and be in a dominating position.

Ace - rag, ( 9 or less) should only be played if you are in very late or button position with no previous calls, (or maybe with one loose playing caller) and played strongly against the blinds.

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Answer 7

small suited connectors, like 78. In many poker books, they love to point out the statistical anomally about small suited connectors increasing in win% and that this has been a "trade secret" of the pros for years. in actuality, you need a pretty good run of cards to win with these. what they neglect to mention is that while the win percentage does increase, it will never consistently beat a high card hand like K5 or Q9. also, in my experience, these are only good for straights. if you hit a flush, there's a very high chance that a higher flush will beat you. i just lost 89 clubs when a 4th club came on the river, giving my opponent a 4 card flush, Q high.

QQ-22: I can't count how many times I've been beaten with pairs. Imho, you should play all of these the same way: raise small, get out if overcards are on the board, only push if you hit trips.

AQ: the difference between AQ and AJ is staggering. Most people will raise or even go all in with AQ, yet play AJ like garbage. However, you can increase your winning percentage simply by playing AQ as cautiously as AJ.

KK: I just read an article comparing KK with AA. while most people will play them the same way, AA actually will win *3X more often* than KK. After reading that article, I played KK differently, and started winning more.

A8: this is considered the "halfway hand" where it is better than half of all Ax combinations, and considered the minimum Ax hand to enter the pot with. However, I found that this is true only on shorthanded tables. On full tables, you don't want to enter the pot with less than AJ.

Answer 8

It depends on how you bet them. Each hand is valued differently as to how you are betting it at that particular moment. If you were to bet lower with certain hands and not feel committed to them without seeing a flop and knowing where you stand, you will save more money in the long run and therefor get more "value" out of them. I enjoy seeing flops and knowing where I stand and get the maximum value from each hand. Rather than going all in or putting alot of money in the pot pre flop.

With that said, I believe pocket Aces is the most over valued. They can be so incredibly tough to play sometimes. And coming up on the losing end with them usually takes a huge portion of your chips if not all of them. Same with all the high pocket pairs.

And I completely agree with the Ace King. I'm really starting to hate that hand. I've left so many people crushed with it and came up on the losing end it's sick.

And of course the Ace Rags and King Rags. You couldn't pay me to play those.

Answer 9

LOL

Eye herpes?!

THERE'S a man that hates J-10!

I'd have to say QJ is near the top of my personal list, and small pairs are the hands I see other people overplay the most.

QJ is a definite "looks good, less winning" hand.  QJ suited is even worse, because it looks like AA to most people, and plays like 55.  I used to play this hand passionately, but I've finally reached the point where I'm begging for an excuse to fold it.  That doesn't mean I always fold it, but I always really want to .......... {What can I say, I haven't completed my 12 steps yet.}

Small pairs are best played as a flop-n-fold hand.  You can raise with them once in a great while, if you have position and just as a change of pace, but it's mostly 'trips or die'.

But late in tourneys, or at cash tables if their stack is a little small, you'll see players all-in with them constantly.  It's a much better play just to toss them away.

I think the mindset is "I'm desperate, so if I have to win a race then so be it."  but they're actually creating a situation where the BEST they can hope for is a race, and they may be completely dominated.

The way I see it, when it's late in the tourney, I'm not getting implied odds, because my stack's too small (or my opponents is) so even if I hit the set, I may only win 5-8 times the bet I needed to cll to see the flop.  Since the chances of a set are WAY less than that, it's not worth fishing.

And as for the all-in, only if I have late position and a clear shot at the blinds (so I have some fold equity) or if I'm to the any-two-cards point.

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Kinda funny ... Both JJ and QQ were mentioned, but those are two of my favorites.  With the exception of a few KK-QQ or AA-JJ pre-flop showdowns, I've never really LOST a big pot with those hands, but I've won plenty of monster pots, and a ton of littler ones.

I guess it's a matter of playing styles.  There are probably a lot of players that make their fortunes playing the baby pairs correctly.....

Answer 10

I HATE QQ.  I mean I really hate it.  Without fail I'll make a decent sized raise, somebody will call, and an ace or king will hit on the flop and they'll bet into me.  Or the flop will come with two jacks.  Or three suited cards.  I know it's a strong hand, but it is very vulnerable and just strong enough that it's hard to let go.  People have a tendency to push with it post-flop no matter what, and that's why it earns my vote.  I agree with you though that weak aces are a b***h.  I've learned to only play them from late position in an unraised pot.

About a month ago I made a 4X BB raise from UTG with the ladies, SB and BB both call.  Flop comes 236, rainbow.  It gets checked to me, I bet about half the pot, SB goes all in.  I figure he's got a wheel draw, and after agonizing over it I finally call.  He turns up 45d.  I know I was outplayed, but when I'm holding queens it seems like the biggest rag hands that shouldn't even be in the pot will get lucky.