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Movie martial arts question?

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Hi to all, I'm wondering what style of combat it is that we all see in the movies, someone rushes at the main actor, he does some quick move and next we know he has the extra by the arm pinned to the back and moaning, I mean quick disable attacks as seen in the bourne films etc.

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  1. This is complicated, but if you want to be able to do that then you can pick pretty much any martial art that has some grappling, and just study it for 5-10 years.

    What makes this complicated, is that Matt Damon obviously did not study martial arts for 5-10 years in order to do these moves in the Bourne movies, so what did he do?  Choreography.

    A fight choreographer- specifically a very good and experienced martial artist- instructed him on the move, and then he practiced it over and over and over until it looked like he was an expert.  That doesn't mean Matt Damon could win in a fight, but it does mean that he can make it look good.

    Quick disable attacks are taught in many different martial arts, commonly at higher ranks.  You can't exactly drop someone in 3 seconds if you can't punch properly.  It takes years of study to be able to actually use this stuff in real life.  If it takes 4 years of study to earn a black belt, than that makes it equivalent to a bachelor's degree, right?  The reason I say study for 5-10 years is because a black belt is only the beginning of learning the real stuff.


  2. Who cares....................!

  3. Steven seigal typ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, The bad guys have real class,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!  they come  at him only one at a time............................  They are real nice............. that way......!=!

  4. Fictional martial arts. I have never seen anything like that go down in real life. It makes for an exciting movie though.

  5. I recently saw this on someone else's post and I love it:

    "Everybody has a plan until they get hit."

    Those moves work in the movies because the script says for it to work!  It's not the same as using the technique on a real person who's trying to hurt you.

    The Matt Damon's moves in the Bourne films were performed on a COOPERATING  actor, so of course they work.  

    The UFC and MMA are not the final word about what works and what doesn't work in real life, but MMA competitions are still a great laboratory for testing and learning what works and what doesn't work against a RESISTING, NON-COOPERATIVE opponent.

    There is no rule in MMA against pinning a guys arm behind his back, and it works on the ground... Why hasn't somebody tried it standing up?  I guarantee you somebody has!  And guess what! It never worked in sparring class, so nobody uses it in competition.  If even one person was able to pull off such moves in the UFC, they would have done it before now.  The closest thing I've seen is seen work was a flying arm-bar (standing varition of the ground technique).  And that guy had lots of tried and true groundfighting to fall back on if the flying arm bar didn't succeed.

    If you want to be cool like Jason Bourne in real life, focus on the BASICS first:  punching, kicking and grappling.  If you want to become an effective fighter in the shortest time possible, look for an MMA gym and get some real sparring experience FIRST.  (And get a washboard stomach at the same time!)

    If you still want to learn some "cool moves", having some basic fighting experience (boxing and grappling) will help you understand understand which "cool moves" will actually work and which ones are movie-time fantasy-land martial arts.

    Be wary of schools that only train the "stand still while I hurt you" method of sparring.  That's okay for introducing techniques, but if you get to black belt and you've never tried your techniques on somebody who isn't COOPERATING with your technique, how will you find out if it really works?  You want your first reality test to be in a dangerous self-defense situation or a safety-conscious training environment?

    Aikido (Steven Segal's style) uses slick looking throws and joint-manipulation.  But traditional aikido schools (that I have seen, anyway) teach no punching and kicking, and no ground-fighting.  How can you defend against real punches if you've never seen one?  

    I saw an Aikido black belt enter an MMA contest once.  Fastest tap-out I've ever seen!  He was taken down and tapped in 4 seconds!

    Why did he lose?

    Two more great quotes come to mind:



    "Trying to "catch" a punch is like trying to write your name on a baseball while it's flying through the air."

    "Trying to learn to fight (or self defense) without sparring is like trying to learn to swim without getting in the water."  (seen this more than once on Yahoo)

    Aikido has some cool techniques, I may even train it some day.  But Aikido moves are much more COMPLICATED than punching and kicking, thus more difficult to apply in a stressful situation.  If you want to train this kind of martial art, make sure you understand the SIMPLER stuff like punching and kicking FIRST.  

    Other places to look for "cool moves":

    Any style of Japanese JU-JITSU

    HAPKIDO is mostly Tae Kwon do with a lot of ju-jitsu techniques mixed in.

    Filipino martial arts (KALI, ESCRIMA, ARNIS) often teach a lot of joint-manipulations, as do the Indonesian martial arts (PENCAK SILAT, PENTJAK SILAT).

    Many kungfu styles teach "CHIN-NA" teachniques.  "Chin-na" is not a style, it is a name that applies to any joint-manipulation technique.  Some taichi teachers teach chin-na as well.

    I believe that most KRAV MAGA schools will teach joint manipulation techniques.

    The Okinawan style RYU-KYU KEMPO (the style of Taika Oyata, google his name to find schools) teaches very good joint manipulations, and they practice sparring as well.

    To learn more about any of these martial arts, read about them at wikipedia.org.

  6. If you want to learn something like that you might look into studying chin-na or aikido, hope this helps.

  7. in the bourne films they use a lot of filipino kali inspired moves

  8. its choriogrephy

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  9. The stuff that you see in movies is derived from martial arts, but most of it is just movie magic. There are a lot of things that you see on the big screen that are just impossible in real life. But most of what you see is what I consider the "hard" martial arts. That meaning these are the martial arts that are meant to cause as much bone-crushing damage to your opponent as possible. Odds are that is some form of karate, due to its simplistic but effective movements. The "soft" martial arts, like Judo (translation: "gentle way") or aikido, are more about stopping your opponent from hitting you and using as little force as necessary. In truth, all of these form can be used to end a fight very quickly

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