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Movie who killed the electric car, my suspect is car companies? any quotes about them why they are guilty?

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plz help!!!!

i watched this movie but forgot

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  1. Okay... 2n has a very valid argument.  Any of you ever worked on an EV-1?  Didn't think so... it's not a great car.  GM did spend tons of money developing it, and probably lost their shirts doing so.  But it's not a great vehicle for more reasons than I'm going to get into here.  Granted, it's the nicest electric car I've seen when it comes to the body and interior, but still mechanically it's a beast.

    And Answerman...

    Oh goodness... Yes, electric cars do use oil and transmission fluid.  And yes, they do have radiators.  Most all electric cars do in fact use some form of transmission, which requires fluids.  In fact, even the new fancy CVT transmission require a very specialized fluid.  And even if they didn't, the differential housing on the axles certainly does.

    As for radiators, granted not all electric cars are liquid cooled.  But anytime you're building an electric car more powerful than a golf cart, you're going to need to cool that motor somehow.  And guess what, most of them are liquid cooled.

    So that kinda shoots your fluids argument to h**l.  As for the lack of parts, auto companies would have to make lots of extra parts anyway.  They are required to by law.  The must make enough parts to service all cars produced for a given time period, something like ten years.  I don't recall the exact duration, but it's a while.  After that, it's up to the aftermarket.  And even electric cars will break, they are no less complex than fuel cars, just different.  So they too will need parts support.

    And finally, batteries.  Our department at the university has tried to get our hands on the latest and greatest in batteries over the years, and the funniest thing happens everytime.  The won't sell them to us.  They advertise them, post values for them, and then when we come in with the money for it... they won't sell them.  Funny how that works huh?  And after much independant testing, we've found that the claims made by these companies is greatly misleading.  They may have one cell that does this, and one cell that does the other... so they claim this new battery does this and the other.  Even though it took two totally different batteries to accomplish it.

    So we have a saying about it around school...

    "There are liars, d*mn liars, and battery salesmen."


  2. The movie was bogus, made by people who'd like to tell you how to live your life.  It might have made sense for wealthy southern Californians, who were the only people who could drive the EV-1, which was dangerous in anything resembling winter.  

    Automobile companies can make a profit on anything they sell, but nobody will buy a battery-powered car because the batteries give you a short ride and a very long charge time.  You have to charge it overnight to go 120 miles, and that's just not practical for most of us.  There's no suppressed battery technology, just people who think that if they wish hard enough, things will somehow be different.

    There are no battery-powered electric cars being marketed anywhere in the world right now, and there are unlikely to be any.  

    Seen a Tesla Roadster yet?  Neither have I.

  3. 1. Electric cars are simpler to make so they would cost less.

    2. Electric cars are less complicated. They don't have belts or radiators or exhaust pipes or transmissions so repair part sales would go down.

    3. Electric cars don't use oil or radiator fluids or transmission fluids so maintenance costs sales would go down.

    4. They last longer so resales would be less often.

    Extra:

    That's just the car companies the oil companies hate it because they don't use oil or gas and would get the equivalent of 150 mpg for mileage.

    2n2222 Here's a article on the newest battery tech the

    lithium titanate oxide (nLTO) battery.

    Possible 10 min. recharge and 20 year life.

    Plus Safer.

    Plus works great at temp extremes.

    Karatema - Good post, I have not worked on electric cars.

    I can believe the transmission part, maybe a power steering pump. Some type of A/C and Heat unit. I doubt it could be more complicated than a 4 or 6 cylinder combustion engine with water pump and oil pump and starter and fuel injector and crank shaft and cam plus the timing belt and alternator. I would like to see one for myself.

    Also did they use the lead acid battery tech or the nickel camdiam. The electric car concept is based off of the battery tech and is only going to be as good as the battery.

    My point is, if we can send robots to Mars and send satellites to orbit Pluto, these items are using some good batteries.

    Most people that I know have 2 cars. I would buy a limited local car to go to work which for me is 35 miles away 17500 miles a year just to go to work.  If it got over 75 mpg instead of what I have now which is 24 mpg we're talking $2,200 per year vs $700 just work mileage not including week ends and what my wife drives per week. But they are saying these cars can get 150 mpg.

    Don't begrudge me I'm tired of getting gouged for gas. It wasn't that long ago it was under $2 a gallon. I'm tired of setting around not complaining wishing someone else would complain for me so I'm going start getting educated on the matter and start doing my job as a consumer and stating what I want in a product.

    If they wont come up with the idea's, I'll give them a few to brew on. I don't know why you want to stick to 1 source of fuel so badly when more options will help the consumer and the economy and the country. So is it me or is it you. Quit crying about it and make it work.

    P.S. I don't want the EV-1, I want something better.

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