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Muslims is bowing Haram?

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012:004 When Joseph said unto his father: O my father! Lo! I saw in a dream eleven planets and the sun and the moon, I saw them prostrating themselves unto me.

002:034 And when We said unto the angels: Prostrate yourselves before Adam, they fell prostrate, all save Iblis. He demurred through pride, and so became a disbeliever.

Why did Joseph's brother prostrate to him? Is he a God?

Why did the angels prostrate to Adam? Is he a God?

What happened you only bow to Allah?

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  1. bowing in submission to anyone or anything other than Allah (swt) is haraam. Bowing as a greeting is not the same thing. It's not like,

    Person 1: Hello! (waves)

    Person 2: Hello! (bowing) Well, I guess this means you're my new Lord.

    Person 1: Uh... (runs away)

    Let's not be silly and try to equate the two.


  2. 1.Joseph's brothers did not prostrate or bow to him. he saw dream planets prostrating.

    2. Allah told angels to prostrate Adam, Allah all knowing.(it is our All creations duty obey Allah)

  3. my position is that anything that makes sense is haram.

    so for example, if you are in a country in which bowing is a common way of greeting people, then it is haram.

    lets not be foolish about things...

  4. Whats got your goat Adnan? Your usually quite interesting, now your getting a bit ratty.

    EDIT: Becuase I thought you were cool the way you are/were (and will be after my stone cold steve austin joke). No change back now! Before I exert some idiocy on your candy...erm...head? Cheer up. Don't become dreary like me, it's not worth it. I knew emo was contagious. Oh and I answerd your question in that other question.

  5. Dear Adnan,

    The answers to your questions are not short, but I will try to explain as much as I can.

    From another translation of the Holy Quran:

    12:4 Behold! Joseph said to his father: "O my father! I did see eleven stars and the sun and the moon: I saw them prostrate themselves to me!"

    2:34 And behold, We said to the angels: "Bow down to Adam" and they bowed down. Not so Iblis: he refused and was haughty: He was of those who reject Faith.

    Let's take the fist verse: 11 stars represent 11 bros. of Joseph (Yusuf), the sun rep. his dad, and the moon rep. his mom. After some certain years, Joseph becomes a prophet (and a ruler) and his family (bros., dad, and mom) follows his path/guide. His family joins his religion (faith). In this verse, bowing in his dream, represents that Joseph's family will join him later. This is just a metaphor.

    The second verse, is true. This is not a metaphor. Yes indeed all angles and Iblis (we consider him as the head devil) must have bowed to Adam (when he was created). This is to show how important, noble, high Adam was. It is like bowing to a supreme being to show respect and accept his highness. Adam was the first created person and we (all Muslims) consider him as our grand father. And this prostrating tells us that we are the only ultimate being after Allah. All human beings are above the animals, angles, devils, elfs, spirits, aliens etc...you name it)

    And that was the only and last bowing to a human being. After that, all created beings MUST obey and bow to Allah. (no exception at all)

    This is also stated in the Quran, but I do not have the translation with me now.

  6. God allows bowing only to himself. But if God asks someone to bow to someone else like he asked the angels to bow to Adam, then you do it. Because then it is God's own order. That does not mean that thing is God.



    Regarding Joseph's story, it was a dream he saw. There is a difference between dreams and real life, if you know.

      

  7. Good Question. Many Muslims do not know the importance of bowing ONLY before Allah.

    In the earlier codes of conduct, ' prostration of respect '  was probably tolerable. But with advent of prophet Muhammad the code reached its zenith and prostration and bowing were reserved for Allah SWT only. Any one who bows before others, commits shirk.  A Muslim therefore, must bow only before Allah.

                                  Muhamamd Javed Iqbal

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