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My coworkers waste an ungodly amount of water. Anybody have any helpful statistics I can enlighten them with?

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I work at Starbucks. Anybody who is at all green would be absolutely horrified by the way they all just turn on the water and walk away! I just want to slap them! They just have no idea what sort of effect that water waste is having on the environment. If anybody has any helpful data, numbers, figures, whatnot, that I could show them I would love you forever. Obviously I have seen figures before, but it was a while ago and I don't remember enough to sound credible. Now I need hard cold facts to hand them and now I can't find the data. Please help! They all think I'm a frickin' nutjob!!! I live in Michigan and we are surrounded by fresh water, so they all think water just grows on trees and I'm an idiot. I need data, facts, numbers. Thanks for your help.

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  1. Well, if you are surrounded by freshwater and not in a drought, I don't really see what the big deal is. The water usually goes back where it came from as treated sewage.  While the wasted water does add to the amount of sewage, but it just dilutes it and doesn't add any of the nasties. Were you going to bottle up that water and send it to Nevada instead?


  2. Enlighten them on some of th larger volume issues and get them to understand the meaning of looking for alternative measures:

    CA Green Building faces new Environmental and Economic Sustainability challenges.   Read this as an an example: http://www.vitabrewcoffee.com/water.html

    In an open challenge to the states GSA Green Building material guidelines and practices, several CA based Architectural and Specialty Coatings firms have stepped up their Water Conservation Programs in support of environmental and economic sustainability.

    Edward Mugits, an independent consultant to both public and private water conservation programs has announced the ‘Open Challenge Program’, (OCP).    The OCP program offers GSA the opportunity to test the waters and see what CA based businesses have placed to the ‘Green Building and Water Conservation programs.

       The primary criteria for qualifying a ‘LEED’ Green Building Material, is its Volatile Organic Content, (VOC) for emissions reduction and, Recycled materials for natural resource conservation.   This Industry has met the stringent emissions criteria, without loss of product quality or performance.  Yet, we all failed to integrate in the front end, the most precious natural resources used to manufacture our products, Drinking Water, one that grew exponentially with this change.    Those who stayed loyal to the state paid a hefty price to do so here, and continue to in order to provide economic sustainability.  Of recent, their efforts have qualified Recycled Water as ‘Post Consumer Waste’.  We have bridged a gap in the Green Building Supply Chain, by integrating the efficient use of a renewable natural resource, Water, in the Green Building Criteria.   The collective Drinking Water savings for CA is well over 130 million gallons a year.

       Our CA Water Partners, on every level, have, and continue to, meet Federal Recycled Water quality standards that shall assure our products are safe to human and environment, without loss of quality or performance.  Their recycled water quality meets that of irrigating edible crops, it has done so for decades. We need to make the public aware of this and promote further efficient alternate use and Public ‘Buy In’.  We need to remove the stigma attached to ‘Recycled’, collaboratively.

       Ca promotes Recycled water in major proportions, mainly to the residential community, landscaping, large energy generators and agriculture. Many cities and counties have adopted incentive programs by way of rebates and preferential ‘Buy Green’ incentives to residents and suppliers to meet these challenges.   They introduced new jobs, such as ‘Residential Water Conservation Coordinators’ as an outreach to bolster ‘Public Buy In’ and program success.

       Our contention is simple, the state has a responsibility to recognize our efforts and collaboratively engage environmental and economic sustainability, we both have accountability as Stewards of our Natural Resources and our Economic growth, and we all have a stake in this.  We need to integrate all potential sources of water conservation to our programs to leverage the High price of conveying this resource where best used.

       Poised to take the challenge, several OCP participants have allocated limited supply to GSA, and Developers to buy at cost of goods, no mark up whatsoever. These products are LEED qualified, now including % of recycled water content. They are World Class Manufacturers offering World Class Sustainability.

      CA organic businesses have taken voluntary steps forward.  In return, they shall earn recognition by the continued purchases, as a preferred CA. Green Building Material Supplier.  Weneed their supporting Voice to promote ‘Buying CA Blue to make it Green”

       Paint: to protect, preserve and beautify our homes, buildings and surroundings, while preserving our natural resources and CA based jobs.  Buy Organic, Buy CA Coatings. Contact Edward Mugits at  http://www.vitabrewcoffee.com/water.html   for details on this program.

  3. from the starbucks website:-

    Starbucks Environmental Mission Statement





    Starbucks is committed to a role of environmental leadership in all facets of our business. We will fulfill this mission by a commitment to:

    Understanding of environmental issues and sharing information with our partners (employees).

    Developing innovative and flexible solutions to bring about change.

    Striving to buy, sell and use environmentally friendly products.

    Recognizing that fiscal responsibility is essential to our environmental future.

    Instilling environmental responsibility as a corporate value.

    Measuring and monitoring our progress for each project.

    If you feel strong about the waste contact the management  of starbucks

  4. That's why the filthy hippie pigs in San Francisco came to be... they have water - phobia ( hydro-phobia ?? )   Oh and soap fear too.

  5. I work at Sbux in Miami and I know exactly what you're talking about.  Espeically when it comes to rinsing out the Frappuccino blenders.  In my store, we have a "rocket" which is this stick looking thing that you place the pitchers on and press down and a small high pressure blast of water cleanses it out, while using about 2/3 less water than trying to fill the pitchers to rinse them out.  It might not seem like much of an effort, but it does indeed waste far less water.  Perhaps your store manager can order one?

  6. Why are you working at Starbucks ? Ive heard there not all that eco friendly behind the scenes and are just posing with some token efforts

  7. show them this text

    Why should we all be responsible for saving water?

    because there is so little that we can use

    ------------------------------...

    25% of the planets surface is land

    75%of the surface is water and it is rising

    ------------------------------...

    97%of the Earths water is salt

    fresh water is only 3% of all the Earths water

    most of it is beyond out reach

    now much ice is melting and running into the seas fresh water lost for ever.

    STORAGE or Location of % of the fresh water

    ice and glaziers 74%

    groundwater 800 meters + 13.5 %

    groundwater less than 800meters 11.o%

    Lakes 0.3%

    soils 0.006%

    Atmospheric in circulation 0.0035%

    rivers 0.03%

    frozen land or permafrost is not included and represent an unavailable storage of 40%

    so of the 3% about 11.6 ,is easily available to us ,in rivers, lakes and ground water surface aquifers,more and more of this is becoming contaminated

    overpopulation of an extra 70 million people a year (increasing all the time )and expanding agriculture ,which uses 70% of available potable water supplies ,has brought the good(sweet) water suplies to critical levels ,some countries have been in trouble already quite a while .

    now climate change and desertification because of irresponsible agriculture ,overgrazing and deforrestation is damaging world fresh water production .

    it is a good reason for concern and if we do not rectify matters by changing agricultural methods ,reforrest ,stop deforrestation,become more economic with water use ,stop producing more people ,stop wasting and contaminating water, we will be in serious trouble all round

    and could end up looking like Mars

    WATER POLUTION

    FIRSTHAND CONTAMINATION

    Rivers and Lagoons

    millions of batteries are thrown in the rivers and Lagoons by night fishermen

    1 small penlight battery contaminate 10.000 litres of water

    raw sewage added to water flows like cannals and rivers ,

    trash dumped on rivers edges ,

    Industry contaminates practically unchecked

    farmers using agro chemicals (fertilizers ,herbicides & pesticides)then deforrest and the rains washing the topsoils impregnated with contaminants into the rivers

    thousands of women that do the washing in rivers using harmfull detergents.

    farmers dump acidic coffee husk into the waters which kills millions of fish ,

    on the coasts

    oil spills that contaminate coastal waters,

    Oceans

    industrial wastes that are dumped into deep oceanic trenches

    SECONDARY POLUTION

    changes in water temperature enhances harmfull algae,(remember the red tide)

    and kills many fish who are critical to temperature ,when sea water enters lagoons here in Mexico many fish die ,due to sudden temperature changes

    and these are some of the things we can do

    SOLUTIONS

    wetlands like swamps have always been Natures natural filters for natural water flows,aquatic plants clean the water ,the anchored plants as well as the floating ones

    we should redesign wetland flora with in natural water systems to help contra contamination.

    stop sewage systems that connect to natural water flows ,forbid and police the dumping of rubbish on waters edges ,

    the best way is through the educational systems ,starting at kiddy schools and rising in intensity with progression.

    but in Mexico this is not accepted because this kind of education is not in the ciriculum.

    In short the ways to protect the waters is

    laws and punishment ,government vigilence ,education ,

    alternative farming methods away from using chemicals ,which eventually end up in the ground water supplies

    to merely clean polution or try to clean is never effective because of population growth ,it gets worse by the year ,an impossible task

    we must attack at the roots and that is the contaminating mentality

    EFFICIENT WATER USE

    IN THE HOUSE

    one can connect the sink straight to the toilet sistern and so use the water twice ,first to have a shave and then to flush the toilet

    also if you bend the ball valve you can regulate the level of the sistern

    and always have your grey water and black water seperate

    so that the sink and shower water goes directly into the garden saving on irregation and at the same time ,making the sewage smaller and easier to deal with ,this also goes and iregates the garden but via a sitern of two compartments and a french drain ,on which you plant trees,

    ON THE LAND

    economic systems of irregation like drip irregation

    and design using a lot of stone walls ,that condense water in the night

    and planting leafy plants for the same purpose

    building wind breaks ,to counter act the drying effects of the wind and farm towards agro forestal ,using as many trees as posible to limit evaporation .using shade nets before we have tree cover

    and use MULCH

    by cutting down the weeds before they produce seeds and leave them where they fall,they will cover the ground and put even more organic matter on top,you can use saw dust,leaves green or dry,and when you plant make a little space and plant in the mulch.this is the easiest quickest and by far most benificial way(for the quality of you soil)to prepare the land for planting

    to prevent weeds from coming all you have to do it turn out the lights,you can even use cardboard or black plastic(this is good for strawberries because they will rot if they touch humid ground,and the bugs can get to them).

    mulch is the same principal as compost but it includes the whole garden surface

    the top part of the soil where the topsoil is being produced houses a world or microbiotic life.

    Mulch is organic material green or dry that covers the ground,the thicker the better the composting process will turn it in to black topsoil

    the humidity is preserved underneath and promotes the devellopment of worms(their exists no better compost than their excrements)and a variety of micro biotic life which together with the mulch produce more topsoil.

    the mulch also keeps the ground temperature even and guards against the impact of the rain ,which would other wise brings salt to the surfave if on unprotected land

    Mulch also prevents the soil from drying out because of the sun and,

    WATERHARVESTING

    the natural way of nature is to evaporate moisture for clouds and this gets blown to places with less water any way ,what obstruct the clouds from getting to deserts ,tend to be mountains that are in the way,

    but generally speaking ,the normal weather patterns spread rain evenly over the planet to balance out the temperatures and humidity.

    As far as catching rain is concerned ,we do this all the time ,and have done so already since Babylonian times,and is a part of the more advanced Agriculture,that existed with the Egyptians,Central ,and south American indigenous peoples,and many others ,today we call this water harvesting.

    In Permaculture the rule is to harvest water to the point of Zero runoff.

    this means that all of the rain that falls on an area is absorbed by the terrain and not a drop leaves it.

    by building dams,ponds or swales, with interconecting ditches,

    if there are enough of these ;the places ,where before the rain water ran over the ground into the rivers and on to the sea ,(in a matter of hours or days),It now runs into absorbant dams or swales and saturates the ground and eventually reaches subteranean water deposits ,taking many months to do so.

    Or it fills up ponds that can be used for Aquaculture.

    And so a convex situation that repels water is transformed in a concave ,absorbant one and turning the area in to a sponge.

    in Spain and Portugal ,which still display many examples of the conquering Moorish influence,One can find many remnants of Waterharvesting,such as aquaducts and tanks underneath the patios ,which collect the rain water from the roofs ,to be used in dryer times.

    in Arabia ,on a large scale ,land has been shaped to catch and lead,rain water into sandy areas or to agricultural lands.sand is almost as good as dams because it absorbs water and holds it.

    Source(s):

    to find out more about Water harvesting I recomend:

    the designers manual by Bil Mollison,which cost about 40 dollars.

    and is the best all round book you can get.(tagiari publishing, tagariadmin@southcom.com.au)

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