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My friend is a manager and wants to fire an employee. She wants my opinion. What should I say

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My friend 'Angie' manages an office. She has an employee 'Sally' who is an older lady (45-50?) and dresses very badly. The clothing is too tight, often sparkly and not age appropriate. I would not say it's prostitute kind of bad but pretty close. Lots of really high heels, pink sparkly stuff and animal prints and tons of blue eye makeup.

Sally has been warned numerous times about the way she looks and dresses. The problem is, some of the stuff she isn't technically against the dress code, it's just trashy and sleazy looking. She is overweight and stuff is really tight and she is looking like the seams will break. People in the office joke about it, it's distracting in the work place and Sally doesn't seem to get what's "appropriate" for day/evening etc. She is also fuzzy on the whole clothing size concept and thinks she is a size 8 or 10 when she is more like a 14/16. She gets paid well and buys new clothing, purses and shoes all the time. This is a person who could totally dress classy if she wanted to. I have seen her in person and to write about it or talk about it, doesn't even compare to seeing it. She is a TRAINWRECK! It's as bad as they told me and worse. She's a nice lady but...yikes!

Friends have even recorded makeover shows and given them to her as a hint. Others have even told her directly and she gets really defensive saying she follows the rules.

Angie is seriously considering firing Sally for 'other' reasons but I suspect those other reasons would not be such a big deal if Sally dressed better. I think it's kind of sad. Sally is good at her job in a lot of ways but the clothing is a huge issue and she works with the public. Angie asked "Should her clothing be a factor in my decision?" Truthfully, I don't know what to say!

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  1. youre fired!


  2. Sally has been warned enough times that her clothing is not appropriate for work. If customers or clients sees her, it could give the company a bad image. If she keeps ignoring the warnings then she deserves to be disciplined for this  

  3. I don't think it should the manager should talk to her seriously and leave her on a warning and if she still does it well then she should consider it

  4. You don't mention what state you are in, but in many states an Employer does not need any justification to terminate someone, such as Arizona

    Michael

    http://www.mcordova.com/

  5. Wow this is quite a tough one... Well "Angie" is your friend, so I'm sure she would like you to agree with her.  The complicating factor is the fact that what she does isn't TECHNICALLY against dress code.  But I do agree people do need to dress age-appropriate.  45-50 year olds don't need to be wearing 5-6" heels with sparkles and tons of makeup.  Those things are fine when toned down (i.e. maybe 2" heel, feminine colors, and light makeup).

    And unfortunately, while she may be good at her job, you have mentioned she's been warned numerous times... I'd say maybe tell your boss to give her one final warning, and tell her straight up that its affecting the workplace and the customers, and if its not corrected, she could be facing termination.


  6. its true da way u dress people judge u by it good or bad maybe  she needs to talk to her about it not bein mean  

  7. Their you go you just opened your self up for an age discrimination case.

    She better have her ducks all lined , she is on very shaky ground.

    What dress code do they have is it written or are they pulling out of the air or their @sses

    Talk with someone from the labor board to see what kind of grounds you can go on. Also you better have it all on paper with times and dates for previous warnings etc.

  8. id say salley... talk to her about the clothes and the other issues if she changes choose the other lacker >=]

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