My god-daughter is dying for a black horse, i don't have black horses neither money to buy a true black?

Question

but i do have plenty of excellent dark bay mares. I want to know if i find a true black horse, could the foal be born black, despite the mare being a bay?

Would it matter if my mare is a quarter horse and the stallion is an Aztec?

Please help me, the little girl just lost her father, and i'd really like to surprise her with her black horse.

Answer 1

I think it's wonderful that you want to do this for your goddaugher, you are really going the extra mile.  The points others have made about the child out growing the horse,and foals not being the best gifts for kids should be well taken.  I'm sure you could also find her a nice horse she could ride right now.  Of course, we don't know her skill level or riding experience, but it sounds like she is younger and may not have a lot.    

Also, an Azteca and QH will just make a 3/4 QH.  That might be good or bad, depending on what you want.  The more important factor is that these two horses will make a better horse than either parent? If you consider breeding and conformation, you will give your god daughter a horse that she can ride and use and share her life with for many more years than if you are looking primarily for color.  A good horse is never a bad color.  You know that.  

I suspect that if you were to surprise her with any horse, she would be delighted at your thoughtfulness and consideration of her situation!

Good luck, she is very lucky to have you in her life.  

Answer 2

Yes she could.  But I would recommend finding a stallion that is known to be homozygous for the black gene.  This will give you a better chance of having a black foal, but you could still get a bay.  I know the Quarter Horse stalliion Macriffik is homozygous for black and I currently own one of his foals.  My first show mare was a black filly by him and he puts great personalities on his babies.  I worked for his owners for 2 years and he's a big sweatheart.

Answer 3

You would have a 23.44 percent chance of having a black foal. A 70.31 percent chance of a bay foal and a 6.25 percent chance of a chestnut foal

Answer 4

If you breed, no matter how great the mare is, you never really know what you're gonna get, and she'd get bored with not being able to ride the baby and not being advanced enough to work with him until he's farther along.

I'd recommend getting her a large pony or small horse that would take care of her and teach her how to ride.  When I was 10 I'd been riding for 6 years and have always wanted a greulla but was still very timid and my mom bought me the BEST babysitter horse I've ever met.  She's a bay and is 24 now.  We've had her for 8 years and I don't ride her much anymore but I'm using her in my lesson program and she's amazing.  She just kinda goes with it and takes care of any kid you put on her.  Find her a horse like that and she'll be set for life.

Ask around in your area and check out Equine.com.  Once you find a horse she can really connect with, she'll forget about the importance of the color and realize what it's like to have a relationship with a horse.  I know, I've been there.

Answer 5

Colour is the stupidest reason for choosing a horse.

I understand the sentimentality of the situation but really, how will you feel if a black horse throws her and kills her when a more sensible pony of any colour would have been better? Get a nice copy of Black beauty or something.

To answer your other question, black is recessive. Both parents must carry a gene (but not necessarily express it) to produce a black. If you don't understand the implications of breeding a QH to an Azteck you should perhaps reconsider breeding.

Answer 6

I'm not sure I understand your question...you're thinking about breeding in the hopes of getting a true black foal?

OK.  Your intentions are good, really they are.  But if that is your plan, I suggest you get a new one quick.  Color is the last thing anyone ought to breed for.  There are so many horses out there that are languishing at auctions because they are sub-par and no one can afford them with the economy the way it is.  You cannot plan what color your foal will be.  You can make educated guesses based on genetics and the parents' colors, but nothing is guaranteed.

Good Lord, even if you did breed and get a black foal, what is a little girl going to do with a foal?  A kid and a foal are a bad combination.  Besides the fact that despite what she says now, she's going to want something she can ride.  She may very well lose interest in a foal once it becomes a gangly yearling that is too big to cuddle, too frisky for her to handle, and not anywhere near old enough to ride.

Besides, even "true blacks" turn bay due to shedding out or bleaching from the sun.  I used to work at friesian stud, and most of the horses there had a reddish tinge to their coats here and there.

And if you don't have the money to buy a "true black" (whatever that means), how is it that you can afford to breed and raise a foal?  Buying a horse, even an expensive one, is a lot cheaper than breeding and raising your own baby.

This is a bad plan, sorry.

Answer 7

I would think you have a 50/50 chance but i think once she sees a foal any foal it wont matter the color so much. good luck.

could you imagine if she saw this in the yard one day http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd8/c...

Answer 8

How old is your God Daughter?

Is SHE the one asking specifically for "true" black or is it you and your knowledge trying to help get her a perfect black ? Do you want this horse for a breeding program?

A True Black horse will not make her feel any better about her fathers' death than a regular ol black horse.

. Something she wrote 9 months ago may be very different now...

A black horse can be had for minimal $...

No one can gaurantee a foals' colour 100%

Take her with you to an auction and let her SAVE a horse or foal from slaughter - if she won't save the bay cuz it isn't a true black...buy her a puppy.

  

Answer 9

I have some good news for you. She's going to live.  

Answer 10

Breed shouldn't matter unless the breed cannot be a specific color example, bashkir curlies and palomino couldn't ever create a solid black horse. A friesan's only color is black, with the rare exception of a reddish color sometimes...look for 'breeding stock' black paint mares etc..they are usually rejected as a true paint because they have maybe only one white sock and don't have true paint colors. I'm no expert on the topic, just summing a few things up. Don't breed a new horse, because what if the baby doesn't turn out the color you hoped? Another mouth to feed, or a heck of a time trying to sell yet another baby horse in this market.

Look for solid/breeding stock paints. You may find a nice black horse with minimal other coloring. Same with appies...some have minimal white or other coloring as well. The horse would need to be blanketted a lot of the time or else the sun will eventually bleach the black coat so the horse looks like a bay.  

Answer 11

No you are more likely to get another dark bay.

You're in a tricky position, my son once wanted a blue pony.....

Go on temperment, not colour. I know it would be lovely to get the perfect match, but a lovely natured horse, who is willing to work and kind to handle is worth their weight in gold.

Good luck. You must be a pretty special god parent!

Answer 12

aww thats so sweet!! hang on I'm going to do some research. =D

All of these horses are cheap and true black horses:

http://dreamhorse.com/show_list.php3?for...

I didn't know where you live so all these horses are all around the U.S.A  =D

You have a 50/50 chance your horse could produce a black foal. Look back in your horses bloodlines and see if there were any black horses in her recent past. This would give you a better chance of a black foal.

Good Luck And I Hope This Helped!!

Answer 13

Shes lucky even to have horses.....she should be thankful that she has them in her life other kids wish they can just be around them.....i knew this one girl her mom died and her dad spoiled her to death and now she is a snappy ******....dont spoil her

Answer 14

Tell her to be patient the right one will come along.  Include her in the search so she sees the value of her prize when you find it.  

http://www.equinenow.com/

Answer 15

Take her to a horse shelter and allow her to pick out one. It will be a good lesson. She should offer a homeless animal a home in memory of her father instead of breeding one just so she MIGHT be able to get the color she thinks she wants. Personality should matter and you should be encouraging her to base her opinions on that instead of on color (or looks-as this could carry over to her relationship to people!!!).

Answer 16

I wish I was your child.I want a horse too

Idk There might be black horses out there.

I don't think it realy matter's the color. I mean atleast she is getting a horse.My parents wont even buy me a dog

Answer 17

Depending on the age and experience of the girl, please consider that a foal might not be a good idea for her. I've seen far too many people who buy a young horse for their child who want them to "grow up together" and the child ends up getting hurt. A few great websites for searching for horses are dreamhorse.com, equine.com, or horsetopia.com. There are often cheap or even free horses of all colors listed. Some may be older, but would still be suitable for a young child.

If you do decide to breed your mare, remember it takes 11 months for a foal to be born and hopefully she won't switch her horse colors like I did so often when I was younger :) .

One more thought, consider rescue as well, I've got 2 rescues at my barn that are wonderful horses!

Answer 18

I think its great what you want to do. I would suggest takeing her to see some horses with you make them all different colors justs o she can see them and she might fall in love with one that isnt black. and honestly you could probably find a foal for under $500 considering the horse market. I wouldnt breed one of your mares, becuase its possible she could want a paint in two months and then two months after that she could want a white horse. Or even going to a rescue that would be a great thing to do.

Answer 19

Honestly, your question makes no sense.  You don't have money to buy a black horse?  With the horse market in the toilet you can probably look around and find just about anything at a good price or even free.  A black horse will not cost more than any other colored horse.

But you do have the money to breed your horse, pay the stud fee, mare care, and food and training for this foal that you will get that may not be the color you want in the first place?  Also, you may be able to get a black foal but your god daughter will not be able to do much with it until it is at least 3 years old.

Go do some research and buy one already out there!  Why breed and add the the overpopulation problem going on already?  There are thousands already out there that need good homes.

EDIT:

Go to Dreamhorse.com.  Under advanced search you have all kinds of options to choose from.  In less than 2 minutes I came up with 96 ads of black horses under $2,000.  This is with NO RESEARCH!!

http://www.dreamhorse.com/show_list.php3...

Again, look around, you WILL find something!!!