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it would be nice to hear an answer from a relatively intelligent christian, because i know there are many.. i guess my question would have to be, do you truly believe that Jesus Christ walked the earth 2000 years ago preforming miracles, and that god created the earth in 6 days? Or do you think that the way of the church and following the religious teachings leads one to a better life, despite the fact that deep down they dont really believe that god (in the way christianity labels him/her/it to be) exists. I mean i believe that god exists in some form, but certainly not in the way that christianity makes god. Fossil records and carbon dating clearly prove that evolution is very real. Please prove me wrong, i would love to hear a credible argument. I have nothing against Christians, i just.. really want to know how an educated person with knowledge of science, and logical in his/her everyday actions convinces themselves that a Christian god exists. I really dont want to be an a*****e so please dont get mad but it scares me when people tell me that im going to h**l. But the fact of the matter is that i simply cant wrap my head around believing a Christian god exists! Are muslims, and Jews, and Hindus, and Bhuddists, and athiests going to h**l? Doesnt that seem a little mean of god?

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  1. My suggestion is to forget the h**l part.  Many Christians do not believe in an eternal burning h**l.  Some believe all will go to heaven("Christ died for the sins of the whole world), some believe that some go to heaven and the rest just die , and of course some do believe in h**l.  The "good news" is that Jesus Christ died for all of our sins.  Science can never PROVE that God is not true.  


  2. God gives us a freewill to believe what we want. But only those that follow Him and His Son Jesus Christ will be in heaven. Have you ever read the Bible? If not please try to, it will answer a lot of questions for you. There is a movie named" The case for Christ" it might help you understand better . It is an interview with a man that was an atheist and he was investigating Christ. He found enough proof that God and Jesus exist that he got saved. Check it out! Jesus loves you :)

    For the answer above me: all those Christians that believe that there is no h**l will find out one day that they are very much wrong! Read the Bible and don't be decieved by lies!!

  3. My basic tenets are as follows:

    1. God does exist, but not like you have heard. the reality is that we cannot know or speak of the true nature of a Being so powerful that His word can create light. We cannot imagine what it must be like to be endless. There is nothing within our human experience to relate such things to, so we must talk of God the way we do, by attributing human characteristics to Him in order to even discuss the matter. It is easy to fall into the trap of believing the model of God over the reality, since the model is mentally acceptable and visible, and the reality is not, so people do tend to get wrapped up in that. This is one of the reasons that God put the prohibition of idols on us, and the hypothetical model of God in human traits is just as much a graven image as any stone would be. God wanted us to seek the deeper meaning of His existence through more mystical exercises. This is why I study mysticism so much.

    2. I believe that Christ did walk the earth 2000 years ago, and that He was God in a human suit, so to speak. It was the only way for the Being described above to possibly interact with us without totally blowing our minds.

    3. I believe that evolution is very real and is the manner in which God made things. Any Being who can create a universe and write the rules that govern it surely does not have to break His own rules to make things happen. This would also explain miracles, which I also believe in. There is a scientific way to explain every miracle because God uses science. If we knew what He knows, we would also be able to change water into wine, part the sea, etc. The evidence of that, to me, is that as man discovers natural laws, he can apply them and obtain godlike powers, like creating light with the flip of a switch. This shows us that knowledge is power, and that an all knowing God must also be all powerful. God, Himself, hinted at this in Genesis, when He said that if we could also live forever, we would become "as gods".

    4. Who all is going to h**l? I believe that most people will escape that. According to the last book of the Bible, Revelations, there will be two judgments. The first will only be for those who openly profess to believe in God and Jesus, dead or alive, at the time of His return. The second will be over a thousand years later, when everyone else, who was not in the first one, dead or alive, will agian live on the earth in the midst of both Christ and Satan. They will have a short time to live with them and then make their final decision. this also accounts for those who lived and died never having the opportunity to make a choice, such as still born babies or whole races of ancient people or mentally incapable individuals. No one will get left out. What kind of moron could botch that one up? The only way I could see a person not getting through the second judgment is if it is actually possible to "sell your soul" to the Devil.

    This is not all that I believe, but it hits the major parts of your question, I think.

  4. How can you not believe in God but believe in h**l the lie from the [opposing] Satan.If  I didn't believe heart and soul in Almighty God Jehovah [his personal name; Ps83:18] I certainly would have trouble with the lesser things of faith.Start at the beginning;

    God's time in years is not always stated as our literal years some are as periods of time

    [such as he had his day in court, not 24 hrs.]---2Pet3:8--

    Let this one fact not be escaping your notice, beloved ones ,that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years as one day.

    [Isa55:8]"For the thoughts of you people are not my thoughts, nor are my ways your ways is the utterance of Jehovah.Man may be in his image as to attributes of righteousness but his thoughts and ways are [9]'As the heavens are higher than the earth so are his thoughts above ours"

    To get the sense of the true God you must believe that the Bible is his  

    spirit inspired holy scriptures that were dictated through him to the scribes under holy spirit .It is still his words and he made it clear that they would last[Ro9:15]For the Scripture says to Pharaoh 'For this very cause I have let you remain, that in connection with you I may show my power ,and that my name may be declared in all the earth.

    Ask almost anyone who Pharaoh or Moses was and they will have heard something of it.

    God had a design and purpose from the beginning.Satan and his demons with Adam and Eve's disobedience put a bend in the plan .In the Garden the day the first sin took place God took away their eternal life and as their off spring that was our inheritance.He then sent a perfect man to buy or ransom back our lost opportunity for everlasting life[Jesus Christ].

    We had been under the Law covenant where there were animal sacrifices and very stringent laws for people to keep.With Christ we now were under the covenant of love:Christ commanded us to love even our enemies.All of these things did and still do hinge on what Jehovah wants most.1Sam15:22Look! To obey is better than a sacrifice ,to pay attention, than the fat of rams.

    What he asks of us is not burdensome ,but a protection for our well being.He gave us free will and instruction as his children the proper things to do.

    He only corrects those he loves.He isn't a murder as people accuse him he is just and never has made action against man without fore warning them.

    Science has more in common with Jehovah creating the universe than not.The bible says the earth is suspended upon nothing and that it was a sphere .How long with the bible did it take man to figure that out.

    I can't make you believe in Jehovah only your inner desire to worship him and holy spirit will do that.The good part is you have good old free will and if you want him he will gladly be found.Living life without Jehovah and his spirit is like no color,taste,feel or love. What he give is so beyond what this world offers that word can't describe it.His love is the filling for the place you have tried to fill your whole life but didn't know what was missing.If [1] word means something to you then I'm pleased.For free bible information watchtower.org Best wishes.

  5. I can't imagine what kind of answers you'll get from Christians about this. I have never ever heard or read a single argument for a religion that I can't immediately spot the flaws in. That being the case, I can not understand how any intelligent adult in modern times can possibly believe in any religion. It absolutely baffles me to no end. And frankly, it really makes me feel disappointed in the whole human race because I know that probably 90% of the world population believes in a religion. Do they really not see the obvious flaws in their reasoning and in the whole set of beliefs of their religions? Or do they just not give it serious thought?

    And yes, I've read "The Case For Christ".

  6. christian scientists?? it's an urban myth.

  7. God as we know of it has no gender or real name to speak of thus "to each his /her own for the "persona of god!" as to the god of the Jew's as Jesus spoke of him Jesus himself said "of he has lived his life as a good person, though he never heard the word of my father nor of me yet shall he obtain the kingdom of heaven"  

  8. Carbon dating  and Radiocarbon dating are very flawed,  you should do more research on their flaws.

    Evolution has not been proved. It is a theory without evidence.

    Rom 1:19   For the truth about God is known to them instinctively. God has put this knowledge in their hearts.  

    Rom 1:20   From the time the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky and all that God made. They can clearly see his invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse whatsoever for not knowing God.


  9. Follow my path.  I will give cookies to all who fall in line.



  10. its true that, the he first time mohammed married almost double his age older woman ( a mother figure)

    muslims say around age 40, mohammed attained prohpesy...

    after attaining prophesy only.. mohammed married that 6yrs old child girl and as soon as the child girl got matured(physically) he had s*x with her

    well, i tell you..

    MORALS are always MORALS, now or 1400 yrs ago, its not about Laws, its not about traditions, Mohammed was already a prohpet, supposed to have communication with God.. being a wise man, he shouldnt have done this, How can mohammed marry & have s*x with that Tiny girl? the girl though matured physically, she was still a child, she wasnt matured mentally at all

    (muslims support marrying the child girl by..

    Mohammed needed a wife to see his house hold things & to look after his children

    lmao, how can this 6 or 9 yr old girl look after his children & do house hold works? (child-labour?)

    and some say, he didnt have s*x at 9 may be later, they simply "lived" together

    well, if this was the case, why they started immidiately after her v****a got broadened? why not immidiatelly after marriage when she was at 6)

    and to SUPPORT women, he need not to MARRY every WIDOW, he can protect those women by simply Giving Maintanance Money & Ordering other Men around.. not to Harrass them Physically

    but this WISE Man.. wants s*x s*x.. Mohammed Lured.. someone else's Wives!

    its a bitter truth, mohammed was a characterless, woman-phycho

    Mohammed was supposed to eradicate bad systems, but he simply followed the tradition, Married TOO Many Women that he can shake his STICK at, this clearly states, he wasnt a prohpet, he was a "FAKE"


  11. "Fossil records and carbon dating clearly prove that evolution is very real"

    Evolution is a theory. It is not perfect and it does have "holes."

    The theory of evolution is just that -- a theory. According to "The American Heritage Dictionary," a theory is:

    A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/evoluti...

    Some evidence against the theory of evolution includes:

    HOMO ERECTUS:  was regarded as sub-human because its brain size was once thought to be out of the range of humans being too small. It is now known that its size is nearly the average size of a modern European's.

    NEANDERTHAL MAN:  was found by medical experts to be a full modern human being whose brain was deformed simply by arthritis deformans.

    CRO MAGNON MAN:  is indistinguishable from a modern human being. It was placed on the chart only because of cave drawings that were found and thought to be primitive.

    These are a few examples. For more information check the websites provided:

    http://mall.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid6.htm

    I cannot disprove evolution, nor do I have any desire to do so. I believe that species evolve as necessary to adapt to changing climate, pesticides, etc. I do not believe that all life on earth evolved from one organism, or that humans evolved from monkeys/apes.

    I do believe that Jesus walked the earth and performed miracles, and I do believe that God created the earth in 6 days. What I don't know, nor does anybody else, is whether those 6 days are real time or God's time and what "God's time" means.

    Like you, Christians have questions too. That's why we read the bible, that's why we attend church, and that's why we actively seek truth the same as any other person would. I have had many of the same questions as you. The answers that satisfy my curiosity may not be the same for you. For example:

    "Are muslims, and Jews, and Hindus, and Bhuddists, and athiests going to h**l? Doesnt that seem a little mean of god?"

    The bible tells us:

    John 14:6 "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

    That is enough to satisfy me. Every living person has an equal opportunity to commit to God, what they choose to do with that opportunity is between them and God. It's not for me to say whether they will go to h**l or not.


  12. i believe Jesus was here and did the things mentioned in scripture. if i did not believe them to be true then i am saying Jesus lied. if i say Jesus lied then what i am saying is Jesus sinned and if Jesus sinned then his death meant nothing and i have no salvation.

    as far as the creation i believe that the big bang happened but i believe someone lit the fuse. someone guided the evolution of this earth and that man is God's creation. i believe in science but you have to be open minded enough to understand that sometime even science could be wrong.

    but these things do not matter in the big picture because God wants our hearts. Faith in Jesus only. i am not going to lie and say i know all the answers but i do know that God is real and just and mercy and compassion and forgiveness and most of all love.

    when i started first grade i knew 2+2=4. when i got to third grade i knew 2x2=4. when i got to high school i knew algebra and later trig and later calculus. this is how it is with God. i had faith that each teacher knew what she was talking about. we learn gradually not all at one time.

    Peace!!


  13. "...do you truly believe that Jesus Christ walked the earth 2000 years ago preforming miracles, and that god created the earth in 6 days?"       YES & YES

    "...do you think that the way of the church and following the religious teachings leads one to a better life...?"         I BELIEVE THAT ONLY THE WORD OF GOD LEADS TO A BETTER LIFE.  RELIGION WILL SEND YOU TO h**l.  MAN HAS PUT TO MUCH OF HIS OWN OPINION AND DOCTRINE INTO RELIGION.  GOD'S WORD IS UN-CORRUPT AND INFALLIBLE.  THAT IS WHAT I FOLLOW THE BIBLE NOT MAN MADE RELIGION.  I GO TO A CHURCH THAT PREACHES THE BIBLE NOT MAN'S OPINIONS.  IF IT AIN'T IN THE BIBLE I DON'T MESS WITH IT.

    "Fossil records and carbon dating clearly prove that evolution is very real."        IT HAS BEEN PROVED TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT FOSSIL RECORDS AND CARBON DATING ARE A FLAWED MANNER OF TELLING THE AGE OF SOMETHING.  IT WAS NON-CHRISTIANS WHO FIRST DISPUTED IT'S VALIDITY, AND HAVE TIME AND TIME AGAIN (EX. CARBON DATING HAS BEEN PROVED WRONG IN THE AGING OF MUMMIES).  THEY CAN NOT GIVE AN ACCURATE READING.  

    "Are muslims, and Jews, and Hindus, and Buddhists, and atheists going to h**l? Doesn't that seem a little mean of god?"       THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATES THAT ANYONE WHO DENIES JESUS CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOR WILL NOT ENTER HEAVEN.  IF YOU HAVE REJECTED THE PLAN OF SALVATION THERE IS NO PLACE IN HEAVEN FOR YOU AND YOU WILL SPEND ETERNITY IN h**l.  JESUS SAID, "I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE: NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER [GOD], BUT BY ME."  (JOHN 14:6)

  14. If that Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Bhuddist, or atheist believes that Jesus Christ did infact die on the cross for everybody sins and rose from the dead they will go to Heaven, and No God is not being mean he has used Christians to show others about Jesus and if they choose to be too araogant or stubborn then it is their fault for not believeing or trusting him.  AND BTW

    God is spelled with a capital G!!!  

  15. for anyone and everyone,we dont have all the answers,you are welcome to see for yourselfs...( http://opendoorrecovery.com )...?

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