Nastia liukin's tie at beijing 2008?

Question

why are people questioning the tiebreaker when it is completely pre determined by the official olympic commiittee?

china is just hosting NOT judging

why is EVERYONE hating on china? i know they have human rights issues but to call them names and blame absolutely everything on them is horrible

i was rooting for nastia cause she's the hottest one there i think she was robbed considering that the judges may be biased

BUT why are people blaming china when the JUDGES are the biased ones?

Answer 1

Guy nailed it... these judges must be from the WWE!

While there is the rule that no judge can be from the athlete's country of origin, there is a noticeable bias for the home team. It happens in every olympics; it's happening in China, it happened in Atlanta, and it will happen in London.

Of course here the big black eye belongs on the faces of the Olympic committee and the Gymnastics Federation that designed this "tie-breaking" software. Completely awful.

A tie represents an equal for the performance, and if the spoils truly go the the victor, then there should be an equal division, or a tie-breaker based on another performance.

Couple this with the failure of the IOC to really deal with the underage accusations (it's negative for both sides to leave it unresolved in that China is left saddled with a possibly untrue accusation, and of course the other athletes are left wondering if they were cheated) and the other horrific blunders of these games and it's clear that the IOC's efforts to improve have failed miserably.

Answer 2

Exactly, people should not blame China, they do not handle the judging.  Yes, the Judges are bias, that is being subjective.  Almost all judges are subjective when it comes to scoring, so what can you do?  BTW, the judges don't get to see what others would score the performance.  So the tie score is just random freak of nature.  

Answer 3

I have not heard anyone blaming China. The real blame should go to the Olympic committee for such a bizzarre tie breaking element, along with the Australian judge who clearly was off the mark and lacked the ability to be a qualified judge (which goes back to the Olympic committee for not devising a better system for obtaining judges that are not biased to any particular qualifier). In addition, the decision to not allow two gold medals is ridiculous.

I do have to negatively comment on both Nastia and the gold medal winner. Nastia should have kept the "nasty" look off her face when the decision was made and been a bit more accepting (luckily she composed herself a little better on the podium). AND the winner, along with her coach and teamates should not have made such a display of their success given that it was won by a nose and ill begotten. If it were me as the gold medal winner, I would have taken Nastia by the hand and pulled her up on the podium with me.

Answer 4

it was just messed up how they came out with a tie.come on now its the olympics you cant have ties you either pick which one was the best and score them high...that was a retarded way of breaking the tie...

Answer 5

I'm not blaming Chinese gymnasts in any way (it's NOT their fault the judges suck at their jobs...), but:

2008 Olympic gymnastic judging credibility = World Wrestling Entertainment credibility as far as I'm concerned.

Nastia Liukin should be extremely proud of her performance on the uneven bars.  That gold medal that she "lost" in the uneven bars isn't worth the paper she uses to wipe her butt with.  

Liukin showed incredible class IMO by actually accepting that sham of a silver medal and not showing up the girl who she obviously beat but finished 2nd to in the "judging".

Answer 6

That's because there has been a history of judges cheating in Olympics years ago.  While I can say the Chinese women were clearly better in diving, I won't agree with that in female gymnastics.

Answer 7

i thought that a lot of china's gymnasts in all of the women's gymnastics events were way over scored, while the other countries were underscored, leading a lot of people (including me) to believe that there are more chinese judges than necessary.

i believe that something is biased about the judges, at this point. nastia should have won tonight, and i'm not budging from that conclusion.

Answer 8

Yeah, well I saw a comment from the tiebreaker on one of Yahoos front page saying "**** China". I completly agree with you, don't blame China, blame the judges. Each one of the judges come from 6 different countrys. And none of them are Chinese.

If it was the opposite, the country China would be outraged just as much as the U.S are outraged.

And lets face it. Nastia Liukin lost by 1/10th of a point. Thats life, Just like how .999999999 is less than 1. No matter what.