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New Ice Age or not?

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When I went on Wikipedia, I looked up Global Cooling, and I saw a section of it about future Ice Ages, and saw that a Russian scientists expects the Earth to enter a new Little Ice Age around 2012-2015 and peak around 2055-2060. I also saw on the news in Miami that Dr. Grey said the warming of the Earth is from different ocean currents and should change in 5-10 yrs. from now and the Earth will start cooling naturally. The timeperiod, 2012-2015 is 5-10 yrs. from now. So, are we warming or are we going to be cooling?

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  1. The theory of man-made global warming is false.  Anyone who believes otherwise has not investigated the evidence or is purposely remaining ignorant to the legitimate opposition to global warming.  I have given up an one and a half hours to watch “An Inconvenient Truth” so I ask you to do the same and watch the movie detailing the opposition.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...  

    Another general resource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warm...

    CO2 is not causing the globe to warm the opposite is true, the warming is increasing the atmospheric CO2.  When the world heats it gradually increases the temperature of the oceans which serve as the largest CO2 sink.  As the oceans heat up they release CO2 which is stored in them.  The information comes from the same data Al Gore uses, the temperature always goes up before the concentration of CO2 goes up.

    http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/artic...

    CO2 makes up only .03% of our atmosphere.  Water vapor, another greenhouse gas, makes up 1-4% of our atmosphere, this gas is acknowledged to be the main greenhouse gas.  All human activities combined contribute only 6 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere each year.  Animals, through respiration, decomposition, etc contribute 150 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere.  So humans contribute only a small amount of CO2 to the atmosphere which is already in very small concentrations in the atmosphere.

    http://oco.jpl.nasa.gov/science.html This is where my data came from, it is an interesting site, it displays the same graphics as Al Gore in his movie but it tells how low the human contribution is.  So Al Gore is using the same data but coming to a different conclusion, who do you want to believe a politician with no scientific training or the NASA CO2 laboratory, a group of scientists who spend their entire careers studying CO2.

    We know the greenhouse effect is real it is a necessary effect to keep our planet at a habitable temperature.  However if our current warming is due to greenhouse gasses it would cause warming in the troposphere , but the troposphere is actually getting cooler.

    http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/temperature... That points to other explanations to our current warming.

    So what is causing our current warming, it is the sun.

    http://web.dmi.dk/solar-terrestrial/spac...

    http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2003/s...

    http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/06...

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200...

    http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/...

    The fact that only the earth’s surface is warming points to direct heating from the sun rather than heating due to greenhouse gasses.  Also other planets in our solar system are warming pointing to a common cause of warming, that common cause being the sun.

    http://www.livescience.com/environment/0...

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...

    http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/sola...

    http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/sola...

    The global warming crowd says our glaciers are melting and animals will suffer this is another false claim.

    http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2Sci...

    http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA235.htm...

    http://www.worldclimatereport.com/

    The global warming crowd also claims a scientific consensus on the issue, this is wrong in two ways.  One, there is no consensus, this is a false claim to make you believe in global warming by suppressing the opposition.  http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm

    Second, even if there was a consensus it would mean nothing, science is not politics, you don’t vote on theories to determine their legitimacy.

    Here’s 21 pages of websites that disagree with global warming.

    http://www.climatechangedebate.org/docum...

    The thought that the only scientists who disagree with global warming are paid by oil companies is simply a stupid statement with no reality.  This is the most illogical argument by people in support of global warming.  Aside from being completely false it begs another question: Who pays global warming supporters?  The answer is big environmental agencies that make millions off of global warming each year by teaching, publishing books, and selling environmentally clean products.  

    The IPCC is the main supporter of global warming, their statements are defended blindly by people who don’t want to admit that global warming is not real.  People will claim that they took into account natural sources of CO2, they didn’t.  Take a look for yourself:

    http://www.ipcc.ch/activity/srccs/index....  That is the latest IPCC report, read the entire report, do a search of the documents, there is absolutely no mention of natural sources of CO2.  The natural sources have been completely ignored.  Also people will claim that the IPCC took the sun into account in their report, this is not entirely correct, while the sun is mentioned the report it’s effects have not been accurately represented.

    http://www.john-daly.com/forcing/moderr....  The IPCC did not take into account the Svensmark factor.  This would greatly reduce the effect of solar radiation on the earth.  Look back up to the solar resources to see the effect of the sun correctly represented.

    Also allegations have been by IPCC scientists who disagreed with the IPCC statements.  They say that their research was censored or taken out of the IPCC report.  This is not the first time the IPCC has lied, they forged the famous “hockey stick” graph, which later resulted in a reissuing of the IPCC report.

    Here’s another source that disagrees with the IPCC: http://rpc.senate.gov/_files/Sept1004Glo...

    And another: http://www.sepp.org/Archive/NewSEPP/ipcc...

    And another: http://www.john-daly.com/guests/un_ipcc....

    Quotes form politicians, CEO’s, and others are not proof of global warming, they issue these statements to get votes and customers.  Scientists are able to get published and get time on the media by supporting global warming.  The IPCC continually lies and misrepresents data so they keep their jobs.  

    In regards to the precautionary principle that says we can only help if we switch over to alternative energy, this idea is not correct.  While this may seem legitimate it only helps the first world, third world countries can not afford to switch to the more expensive energy options.  Also the US currently spends 4 billion dollars a year on global warming research which could be better spent on research for disease or to fight poverty.  For an excellent example of how the precautionary principle is harmful you do not need to look further than DDT.  This pesticide was cheap and incredibly effective but it was banned because of it harmful effects on egg shells.  Now thousands of people die every year in third world countries because of malaria, a disease that could be easily controlled with DDT.

    I hope anyone who believes in global warming they will take a look at the resources I provided.  These resources should convince you that global warming is not man-made, it is caused by cycles in the earths climate.  If you are not convinced I hope you at least take a new look at global warming as an unproven idea.  Remember that global warming is big business for anyone who aligns themselves with it.

    I could not go this entire post without mentioning global cooling.  In the 1970’s it was claimed that there was a consensus on the fact that the world was headed into an ice age.  We have seen once before how damaging a false claim about our climate change can be to our world.  Most of the global warming crowd does not want you to know about this scare because it is so similar to the scare today.  Government panels were formed and claimed the world was headed to an ice age, evidence poured in supporting the claim, a consensus was claimed, then the whole issue just faded away.  That is what will happen with the false scare of global warming.


  2. Well, the earth's climate goes through cycles, so it's likely that in about ten or twenty years from now we will start cooling again. The reason for this is, I believe, that the sun goes through eleven-year cycles of greater and lesser activity.  At the Solar Maximum, or point of highest activity, the sun is radiating the most heat, and vice versa. So, I'm not sure about this, but maybe the sun is going to start sinking into a period of relatively little activity soon. But whether or not we do go into an Ice Age, I seriously doubt that it will have anything to do with reducing our little CO2 emissions.

  3. Not yet .

    first we are all gonna cook

    then when we are all well cooked we will get deep frozen ,

    probably as food for the cockroach civilizations     that follows the Human era after all the disasters and nuclear wars have died down

    this was the Gods great plan

  4. Nobody knows what the climate will do. We simply do not have the knowledge to predict such things.

  5. Do you think the environmentalist will admit they were wrong?  They are going to say it was all that ice that melted which cooled up the oceans that caused the global cooling.

  6. Global cooling and warming are natural cycle and are a constant feature on earth. When it becomes very cool ocean retreat and we find ice in maximum places even uptil tropics.

    As per scientists world went through a cooling phase around 2000 to 2500 years back. Our ancient civilisations had seen a lot of destruction around 1900 BC due to water but they are not sure it was due to warming or why. As per Vedas and other Indian scriptures and mythological stories it iwas possibly due to warming since it says every thing was on fire. Mayan civilisation in South America also depict the same. Something same happened around 6000 to 7000 BC when earth temperature went up and we lost a lot of land to sea and ocean. Sri Lanka became a Island around this time and and many civilisations and old ports, cities and villages were lost to water.

    As per Mayan civilisation we are going to see destruction around 2011 due to warming and earth quakes. So, we cannot expect cooling in immediae future that is for sure. We will certainly see a little ice age but that will be somewhere around 2100  to 2150 onwards but donot expect it to be earlier. Even old indian scriptures depict some thing like this to happen but we have not been able to settle on dates yet.

    The present problem of global warming is more due to our human influence of green house gas emision, burning of fossile fuel, pollution, less forests and further ramphant cutting of green cover and like. We cannot leave everything on nature since what is happening is due to us and we need to take corrective steps.
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