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New discovery!! How to burn salt water as fuel.?

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Check out the link for a new discovery on research in extracting fuel from salt water using radio waves.

Sounds quite interesting....any comments. Paul

http://green.yahoo.com/index.php?q=node/1570

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  1. Basic laws of physics and chemistry prevent this from working.  Follow the cycle:

    Energy in --> radio waves ---> water ---> hydrogen/oxgyen ---> water + energy out

    Energy out cannot exceed energy in.  The water is already "burned".  Going from water --> hydrogen/oxygen  and then back to water CANNOT have a net energy output, and will certainly come up short to at least some extent.  

    This kind of "water fuelled" whatever has been around for at least 30 years and also proves to be an impossible perpetual motion machine.  Anything that runs on this effectively runs on the electricity which makes the radio waves.  

    Sorry.  There is no such thing as "free" energy.  It always must come from a potential.


  2. My physics teacher made me a pessimist by believing in the law of conservation of energy.

  3. I think the article is way overstated.

    Salt water has a very low energy content.  There's no magic way to make water burn.  If it does so it's because they're putting a lot of energy in with the radio frequencies and splitting the water into hydrogen and oxygen.  Ordinary electrolysis does the same thing.  You have to put more energy in than you get back.

    Here's somebody else claiming much the same thing:

    http://www.rexresearch.com/klein/klein1....

    "It seems like every 15 years or so some guy comes along and claims to have come up with a way to turn water into clean burning fuel."

    This is not a magic way to make energy.

  4. This is interesting.  But at this moment we don't know how much energy was consumed to generate the radio waves to break down the molecular bonds on the water.

    The radio waves were undoubtedly produced by using electricity generated from external source.

    To date, using fresh water, it has taken more energy to release the hydrogen gas from the water than the energy in the hydrogen gas produced.  I suspect that may also be the case with the salt water used to produce hydrogen.

    I am not getting my hopes up yet, there are laws of physics that apply to breaking molecular bonds.

  5. My comment is that I doubt you get more energy out by burning the hydrogen than you have to put into the frequency generator to weaken the atomic bonds of H20.

  6. It does sound interesting

    but he gave no indication as to how much power was required to create the flame in his experiment

    I would be interested to see more details of his experiment

    but is promises potential

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