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Nice or nasty. Jesus preached a nice heavenly Father. Is religion preaching a nasty Father?

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Jesus described a loving Father in the story of the Prodigal Son. But today, popular theology says that the Father was angry that people had sinned and needed to be appeased by a sacrifice.

So who is right? Jesus who preached the Kingdom Gospel, or religions who preach Paul's gospel "Christ died for our sins." More details on my biography.

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  1. All religions are nasty. They breed hatred and destruction.


  2. Lakely, how are you editing the words of Christ out of your Bible?

    Christ said he would atone for sin. The prophesies said he would atone for sin. Paul taught the same atonement as Isaiah and Christ.

    Are these scriptures not in your Bible?

    John 6: 49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

      50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

      51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

    Lakely, Jesus was right and so was Moses and Isaiah and Paul.

  3. Lutherans preach Law and Gospel.  The law shows us where we are slack, where we let down each other, ourselves, and ultimately, God.   The Gospel shows us the good news, the salvation story, that we are loved and have been redeemed.  Either way is an SOS - show our sin, show are salvation.  And we need to hear both.  Some weeks we need the hard hitting Law to straighten us up, other weeks we need the reassurance of the Gospel.  The Holy Spirit helps us to hear what we need to hear.

    Even Jesus told us that we had to leave behind our worldly loves and needs if we were to be his disciples.  That's pretty rough stuff.  He told us we must carry our cross with us... again, pretty tough.  He didn't teach everything all warm and fuzzy.

  4. Jesus never existed to preach anything, so the question is nonsense.

  5. God said he perfers MERCY and NOT a sacrifice

       wonder about book of barnabas? saying Jesus was never crucified...

      its very dangerous.. one must know the truth.the whole world knows who Jesus is and it seems we must decide who was He????

    was he crucified or not????????????  and wether He was or not..... is about God's decision!!!!  to allow it or not allow it.. humans must know.

  6. lol. "Nasty Father"

  7. The God of the Bible this Jesus is simply complex.  He calmed the storm, (New Testament) but caused the great trees of Lebonon to bend and break.  God can comfort like a teddy, and have the temper of a momma grizzly!  He created the earth with His hand, then flooded the earth as well.  God always makes a way for those that love Him!


  8. Christ never actually died, that's the point of the story.  He told people they would receive eternal life if they followed God's commandments, including the commandment against violence.  He said to let the devil have your body but not your soul, which meant even if others were being violent against you, even to the point of killing you, you are not to respond with violence.  He "died" on the cross to reiterate that message and to show that God's promise of eternal life was true.

    Through Jesus never actually died -- his earthly "death" did not take his soul, it continued to live -- he did suffer and that was an act of love on the part of him and God to have him suffer to reiterate his teachings and to prove the promise is true.

    So, he did indeed suffer for our sins, but that still does not make the Pauline church the true church.  He did not suffer to take away our sins, nothing in what Jesus actually taught that is recorded in the New Testament suggests our sins are taken away by the sacrifice of Jesus.  Jesus taught each and every one of us will be held accountable for our own sins and that many calling themselves Christians will be turned away by him from the gates of heaven.

    He suffered again to teach us, to be an example of enduring through suffering, enduring even through violence against you without responding likewise, and showed the people of his day that if you followed all that he said, you would be granted eternal life and a place in heaven.

    God is a loving parent, but that does not mean God does not get angry too.  How many parents do not get angry with children who continually ignore what they say and continually mis-behave?  Would a good parent not discipline such a child?  God is a disciplinarian because God loves us and wants us to come into heaven, but only those who can behave themselves are allowed in to the banquet.

  9. You have to understand that while Jesus preached this...many in His time thought Him a Blasphemer...thus they denied His teachings...thus brought along His death for all to have a chance

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