No record of my grandfather???

Question

I would love to give my mother a great gift for mothers day - a record that shows when/where her father came into America. Her father, Angelos (or Evangelos) Kascaturos came from Greece as a young man. To date, we have been very unsucessful finding any official information about his arrival. Help!

Answer 1

Ancestry.com has a Angelos Kascaturos listed in the 1930 census. The census record may include a date of arrival.

Answer 2

Have you tried GenWeb?

Answer 3

Did you know which port he arrived in?  New York? Philadelphia?  That would narrow the search of the ships' passenger lists.

Answer 4

There is a good chance he came through Ellis Island.  There is an even better chance his name was misspelled, or entered with the first and last names reversed, so try other variations.

Hope you find him - that would make a wonderful Mother's Day gift.

http://www.ellisisland.org/default.asp?S...

Answer 5

http://www.freewebs.com/almasykusnyir/in...

**Sofia Almasy Kushnier--his mother-in-law

**Janos Kusnyir (John Kushnier)--his father-in-law

Anna Kushnier--his wife, born & raised in Philadelphia.

(NOTE--**their Ellis Island records indicate they sailed from Fiume (now Rijeka, Croatia) on the Carpathia,the same ship that rescued survivors of the Titanic. They settled in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania).

They attended Holy Ghost Byzantine Catholic Church. Sofia & Janos are buried in Holy Cross Cemetery, just outside of Philadelphia.

RMS  Carpathia--a Cunard transatlantic passenger steamship built primarily for Hungarian emigrant service between Fiume (Rijeka, Croatia) and New York:

Anna Kushnier and Angelos Kascaturos are buried together in Harleigh Cemetery in Camden, NJ in the Maplewood section   Harleigh Cemetery was established in 1885, and

is over 130 acres of lush mature grounds situated on the Cooper River a short drive from Philadelphia. The cemetery has been listed on the New Jersey Register of Historic Places since 1995.

Location:

1640 Haddon Avenue

Camden, NJ 08103 (right across the river from Philadelphia in NJ)

Telephone [phone]

Anna Kushnier's Baptism certificate:

Certificate of Baptism

Church of

Holy Ghost Eastern Rite Catholic Church

This is to Certify

That Anna Kushnier

Child of John Kushnier/Kusnir

and Sofia Almasy born on the

22nd day of January 1913 was Baptized and Confirmed

on the 2nd day of February 1913

According to the Rite of the Roman Catholic Church of Eastern (Byzantine) Rite

by the Rev. Vladimir Dohovycz

the Sponsors beings John Zyzak

and Helena Varchola as appears from

the Baptismal Register of this Church.

Dated Sept. 8, 1945

Rev. John Pavlick, Pastor

ANNA KUSNYIR / KUSHNIER - KASCATUROS * * * CONFIRMED RELATIVE * * *

Anna Kusnyir (Kushnier) Kascaturos was born on 22 January 1913 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in the United States. She is the daughter of Janos Kusnyir (Kushnier) and Sofia Almasy. Anna is the sister of Mary Kushnier, John Kushnier, Steven Kushnier, Andras Kushnier and Basil Kushnier. Anna was baptized in February 1913 at the Holy Ghost Eastern Rite Catholic Church in Philadelphia. Anna married Evangelos Kascaturos on 11 September 1933 in Camden, New Jersey. They later had one daughter, Elaine Kascaturos. Together, Anna and Evangelos ran a successful restaurant in Camden, New Jersey called Everybody's Luncheonette. Anna died in November 1999 and is buried with her husband in Harleigh Cemetery in Camden, New Jersey .

www.rootsweb.com--SSDI

ANGELOS KASCATUROS

Birth 14 Apr 1897

Death Jan 1966

Last Residence--New Jersey

SSN 156-26-1802

Issued--New Jersey

www.worldvitalrecords.com

Name: Anna Kascaturos

Birth Date: 22 January 1913

Death Date: 16 November 1999

Issuing State: New Jersey

Residence at Death: Medford,Burlington,New Jersey 08055

SSN: 142-36-2140

www.ancestry.com--family tree stories

Evangelos Kascaturos - Coming to America

     Evangelos Kascaturos (Angelos) came to America on his own from Greece when he was a teenager. Though we do not know for sure, the story is that he "jumped ship" and lied about his age so that he could work legally in the US. He eventually started his own restaurant, where he met his future wife, Anna Kushnier. To this day, he remains the only member of his family to move to the USA from Greece.

Date Early 1900's  (NOTE & just my idea--if he DID "jump ship", that may be why no immigration records for him are to be found, especially if he entered the country illegally.)

Birth

Date/Place: 14 Apr 1897--Greece

Marriage  

Evangelos Kascaturos & Anna Kushnier  

Date: 11 Sep 1933

Death

Date/Place: Jan 1966--Camden, NJ

Married to:

Anna Kushnier

Parents:  John Kushnier  &  Sophia Almashi

Birth:  22 Jan 1913 Philadelphia, PA, USA  

Death:  16 Nov 1999  Camden, NJ, USA  

Evangelos' sister--Violetta Kascaturos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody%2...

Everybody's Luncheonette was a restaurant located at 511/513 Kaighn Avenue in Camden, New Jersey, United States from approximately 1930 until 1973. The restaurant was established by Evangelos Kascaturos, an immigrant from Greece, and was later managed by he and his wife, Anna. The restaurant is notable because as the name suggests, they served all people regardless of color at a time in American history when this was not the norm.  (includes 4 pictures)

www.ancestry.com

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Angelos G Kascaturos

Home in 1930: Camden, Camden, New Jersey

Age: 32

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898  

Birthplace: Turkey  

Relation to Head of House: Lodger  

Race: White

Occupation--Restaurant waiter

Parents' birthplace--Turkey

His birthplace--Turkey

Native Language--Greek

Answer 6

While the records may not be online, I think it won't be hard to get them. If that is him in the 1930 census of Camden NJ there are 2 solid pieces of information that tell us the records exist. The first is that he came to the US in 1916 and the second is that he was a naturalized citizen. Under INS laws at the time, he would have been eligible for naturalization by 1921. That's a wonderful thing because the record-keeping required for naturalization was very lengthy. It also means that if he changed his name, he would have been allowed to do it on the naturalization forms but would have to declare what his original name was and any aliases that he used. He also would have to declare which ship brought him to the US, what date it left, what date it landed, etc.

The hard part for you is that he left a land that was part of the Ottoman Empire during WWI. The borders changed between the time he left and the time he shows up in the 1930 census. It might have been Greece when he left, but might have become Turkey in the interim. So you have to look for records from both countries.

The records you're looking for will be in one of the National Archives and Records Administration regional units. What you need to figure out is where he was living in 1921. There is a center that holds all of the records for residents of any given state, but no one center holds them all. If he was living in NJ, the records will be in a different center than if he had been in Boston when he petitioned for naturalization. But it's not hard to get the records, it's just a matter of writing to all of them in the New England area if that's what it takes to find him. Only the one that has the records will charge. And if you live in the area, you can visit the centers yourself and review the records on film for yourself. Then the only charge is the 25 cents per page to photocopy them. You can review the centers at this site: http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/

The records you're looking for are the Declaration of Intent and the Naturalization Petition. Those will lead you to the right passenger list. They'll also give you his parents' names, his town of birth, the last town where he lived before leaving Europe, etc. It's not going to take long for them to respond to you and it's not terribly expensive to get them. Good luck.

Answer 7

I checked his name on ancestry.com

and this is what I came up with, there was a

Angelos G. Kascaturos listed in the 1930 New Jersey census for the city of Camden he is from Turkey and got his citizenship in 1916

he was working as a waiter

Answer 8

Even today people are born, get married, divorced and die with no records.  Before WWII, there weren't many complete records; before the Civil War, almost NO records.

Ships' records or immigration records or census records are your best bet, I would think.

Try these:

You should start by asking all your living relatives about family history.  Then, armed with that information, you can go to your public library and check to see if it has a genealogy department.  Most do nowadays; also, don't forget to check at community colleges, universities, etc.  Our public library has both www.ancestry.com and www.heritagequest.com free for anyone to use (no library card required).

Another place to check out is any of the Mormon's Family History Centers.  They allow people to search for their family history (and, NO, they don't try to convert you).

A third option is one of the following websites:

http://www.searchforancestors.com/...

http://www.censusrecords.net/?o_xid=2739...

http://www.usgenweb.com/

http://www.census.gov/

http://www.rootsweb.com/

http://www.ukgenweb.com/

http://www.archives.gov/

http://www.familysearch.org/

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/...

http://www.cyndislist.com/

http://www.geni.com/

Cyndi's has the most links to genealogy websites, whether ship's passenger lists, ancestors from Africa, ancestors from the Philippines, where ever and whatever.

Of course, you may be successful by googling: "john doe, born 1620, plimouth, massachusetts" as an example.

Good luck and have fun!

Check out this article on five great free genealogy websites:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...

Answer 9

Angelos G Kascaturos

Home in 1930: Camden, Camden, New Jersey

Age: 32

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898  

Birthplace: Turkey  

Relation to Head of House: Lodger  

His language is Greek and he is a waiter.

That is all I could find on ancestry.com

Answer 10

There is an Angelos Kascaturos on the Social Security Death Index.  It shows he was born April 14, 1897, died January 1966.

His death certificate should show his place of birth and the names of his parents, including mother's maiden names.

I ordered 2 applications on adults for a social security number. These were issued to go in effect the day social security did, January 1, 1935.  They gave the date and place of birth on the applicant and the names of both parents including mother's maiden name with their places of birth.  

In case the informant on his death certificate did not know his parent info, you can order a copy of his social security number application.  He would have given the information. If he applied back then it should have that information.

Just click on the shopping basket to the right of his name on the attached link and it will pull you up a letter.  Put your name, address and relationship on it and attach a $27 check.

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bi...