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Non-Muslims: Which one (the satan option is not acceptable)?

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If Quran describes precisely about embryology (one of 18th century knowledge), then what is true:

1>It’s words of God

2>Muhammad is extremely smart

>> (for revealing it 12 centuries in advance)

I’m sorry, the option only TWO!!!

the source is here:

http://www.islamicmedicine.org/embryoengtext.htm

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  1. IDK


  2. You probably won't want to hear it like this so i doubt you'll read this, but anyway here goes:

    I read the whole link and i would go with option 2. However i don't think its as exciting as the webpage makes out.

    Science in the east was well ahead of the west for many hundreds of years. Christianity expressly forbade any scientific discovery because it was believed it was against gods will to mess with creation. Significantly the 18th century you mention was the time of the enlightenment in Europe and was the first time medical science started to come out into the open (first in the netherlands because christianity was not a strong force there and later England where the country had broken away from the Catholic pope). Before this we had things like the witch trials which basically sought out people with scientific knowledge and killed them.

    For instance mid-wives were targetted who, by reducing the pain of child birth, went heavily against bible teachings, and who were the most likely people to have the kind of knowledge we are looking at here.

    So really its no surprise that the knowledge of child birth and conception would have only turned up outside of eastern countries in the 18th century.

    The piece you link to essentially talks about complex scientific  knowledge then links it to generalised observational statements in the Quran as if that's a miracle. Try reading the statements from the Quran without all the other text on the page and you'll see its not nearly so impressive. Essentially it can be boiled down to:

    1)Babies come from men ejaculating into Females (not exactly a revelation even in 6th century)

    2)Sometimes they are boys sometimes they are girls and this is gods will. (not exactly an in depth discovery of genetics)

    3)The women probably adds something to the equation in terms of liquid (they get moist when you have s*x, again not a difficult conclusion to come too even if it doesnt tell the whole story)

    4)They knew what embryos looked like at each stage. (They started working this out in the 18th century by looking at aborted and miscarried babies, chopping people up when they died pregnant etc etc. Is it not possible muslim's had done the same thing years before? Do we really need to see the words of god or the miraclous nature of Mohammad as the only explanation?)

    So yeah Mohammad most likely was very smart, afterall he manged to bring together millions of people who previously had no unity, so i'd expect he knew a thing or two. most likely he was well up on the scientific discoveries made in his day as well :)

    Hope that helps!

    edit in answer to added pointed:

    I would say that depends what it specifically means by "uneducated": not going to university doesn't mean you haven't read books or spoken to people who know things for instance. Otherwise we'd have to agree to disagree on this point.

    From my knowledge of history and politics i would would find it hard to believe that somebody who achieved what he achieved could be anything less than intelligent and switched on (again thats not the same as having educational background).

    My second point would be again that the knowledge in the Quran mentioned here is not that detailed (see above)- You wouldn't have to be a genious to understand or to write it so again i question the likelyhood of it being miraculous. I would assume he met alot of people traveling around whilst he wrote the Quran including people with medical knowledge. Again, he would not have had to go to university to learn something from them and write it down.

    Another edit! I think your putting a heavy handed enfersise on the word "revealed" - its not like it was a sudden miracle of knowledge, 18th century experimentation begins, 19th century  findings are accepted more widely and confirmed by more observations = "knowledge revealed after the 18th century" being an accurate statement...

    So im still rooting for option 2 :)

  3. the answer was written in Job, 2000 years pre mohammed...and it's probably older than that. mohammed rewrote old texts thats why it too 27 years...ask any scholar...nothing new there...and i'm not a jew or x-tian btw

  4. Einstein was way ahead of his time was he:

    1  divine

    2  extremely smart

  5. The extract from the Quran in the link reveals that in the 12th C, Islamic scholars knew that human conception was due to "a mingling of female and male fluid". Well this is correct, but it is hardly an in depth, scientific explanation of human embryology. After all, Aristotle's theory also said that males and females contributed to conception.

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