Norm green was the worst owner ever.?

Question

Okay I'm from the midwest about 2 hours away from the twin cities. I believe the minnesota northstars were a great team but why sell a team that has a good arena loyal fans. I have an old dallas stars hat by sports specialties I got in colorado last with their really old logo but truly minnesotans and hockey fans the north stars will never leave us.

Answer 1

Mike Milbury, Reggie Houle, & Glen Sather come to mind before Norm Green.  Yes, given his financial and legal problems, he was not a fantastic GM.  Now you know how Golden Seals fans and Barons fans felt when they lost their team to form the North Stars…the team you miss so much.

Answer 2

What may be a shame for those in Minnesota is truly a love-fest for those of us in Dallas.

Hey,  I didn't watch hockey before the Stars moved to Dallas.  Heck, when they got here, my wife told me I wasn't allowed to start watching another sport.

Now it's her favorite sport and the Stars are her favorite team...I get to be the supportive husband!!!  I love it when things work out for my benefit.

At least Minnesota obtained another team in the Wild and you have a 2nd opportunity to show your love for the game.

In Dallas, I graciously say thank you for sending us the Stars!!!  Finally a sport and a team that I can love more than our Cowboys!!!

Norm Green, thank you for bringing us the great game and even greater team!!!

Answer 3

Mmhmm....and what happened a couple years after they left Minnesota to Dallas? Lord Stanley's cup.

You guys have the Wild now so I wouldn't really be that mad about it.

Answer 4

Dewman, the deal for the Stars was consummated while John Ziegler was in office and Carolina has been in the top 10 in league profit for 7 of the last 10 years, an excellent move by Karmanos.

Iceman, the attendance at the Met Centre the last three years was under 12,000 fans.  The last couple of  times I was there with Chicago, the announced attendance was 9,000 and change.  The only people to really blame for the North Stars leaving is the cities themselves.  

The Gund brothers wanted to move the team to the Target Centre, and the city councillors kept saying no (it was last voted on in December 1991).  So in exchange for a franchise in San Jose, the Gunds sold the team.  Green continued to negotiate with the city, and the city kept stonewalling them.  Eventually Bloomington became harder and harder to get to.  Shortly before the end, the owner of the Met Centre sold the land to a developer (it is now America's largest mall) and the North Stars had no choice but to leave, or pay the rent the city was asking for the Target Centre (which would have been the NHL's highest at the time and would have forced a 47% in ticket prices).  Ziegler gave Green the red light to look for other places.

The fans in Minnesota were definitely great.  They loved the game (and still do).  Bloomington was a GREAT location in 1967.............it was not such a great location in 1990.  

As a member of the Chicago organization, it was sad to see the North Stars leave.  Suddenly we had to make 4 trips to Dallas a year which is substantially more costly than 4 trips to Minneapolis-St. Paul.  Even when the Twins were winning World Series, the North Stars were still on the front pages of the Sports section.  I also think that the Twin Cities are much more aesthetically pleasing than Dallas.  Of course the temperature is never 75 degrees in the Twin Cities in mid-February like it can be in Dallas (another reason hockey should have stayed with the 1,000 Lakes).

When the team underwent the name and uniform change, long time announcer Al Shaver refused to call the team the Stars, even when he signed off the final game, he still referred to them as the North Stars.

And Green didn't sell the team, he moved the team and was the owner of the franchise for the first couple of years in Dallas before selling to the Hicks family.

Answer 5

Bettman probably paid him, because he wanted a team in the hockey hotbed of Dallas.

I agree, I'll never understand how or why that happened.  If I was a North Stars fan I think I would have formed a lynch mob and take out whoever was responsible.

This Wings fan feels for you.  No reason for that... at least Dallas turned out to be a good city for them.  Its just like Winnipeg moving to Phoenix, or Hartford moving to Carolina, or Quebec moving to Colorado, although Colorado has shown good support, probably because they won the Cup their first year... At the time, these were all asanine moves from a hockey standpoint.  The only moves that are truly successes are Colorado and Dallas, but mostly because their teams are good.

Answer 6

Green was an ***.  The whole North Stars thing in the early 90s was a fiasco that Ziegler let happen.

Ziegler let the Gund brothers strip the team of a lot of young talent in the Minnesota dispersal draft that formed the San Jose Sharks

Zeigler and Jeremy Jacobs were asked to step in by both the Gund brothers and Green to help with negotiations with the city, and neither wanted any part of it.

I think the NHL killed the North Stars, and Green could have done something to save it but he didn't.

The fact that the North Stars made it to the finals in 1991 is a miracle in itself because Green had already opened negotiations with Dallas, and the team had a depleted minor league system.

Green had the money, he could have used his own money to pay the arena lease and not raise prices for the fans!

Answer 7

Imagine how I felt when the Philadelphia Athletics won 3 World Series in a row as the Oakland Athletics.

Answer 8

Norm Green was a great owner to those who know him.

He brought a Stanley Cup to Calgary

He brought hockey to Dallas

And by moving the perennially under 0.500 North Stars to Dallas, he brought Minnesota a better team in the Wild.

There's a documentary on the move and Mike Modano is quoted in the documentary as saying 'I played in front of more fans in high school - how can they call this pro sports'

I've also heard that by the time they moved, the Met Centre was a substandard building at best.  

It doesn't strike me as spectacular looking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Metce...