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Nothing Exist Everything is Illusion. Adi Berkeley?

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adi berkeley is not the same philosoph george berkeley.

both are idealist immaterialist but have some different idea.

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  1. If everything is an illusion, then who or what is having the illusion?


  2. Honestly, cant you see those sky scrappers through your window, are you not living in a flat?Do you still need to go out there to see so as to believe that you just came out of that flat?

    Anyway, i would only say that, everything that exists is as a result of those illusions coming true.As in, having been put to practice.

    Thanks for asking

  3. The recent illusion which we persist in calling "Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj" (India 1981) often said:  "I am nothing conceivable or perceivable".  His intent was to provoke  understanding that if humans can conceive or perceive it, it is illusion.  He concentrated on deconstructing the body/mind.  Obviously, this would include all philosophical musings and SNM loved to point that out.  This doesn't leave much but he would allow for the apperception of ultimate reality. Jacques Derrida furthur deconstructs and also expands this by noting that any illusions of permanence, or presence necessarily stated with language, also use language for the realization of the whole, much as the Zen master does in "pointing out".

    The cleanest example of this would be the Zen master who will just not comment on it at all. To me this is the most direct and honest approach in the assertion that all is illusion.  

    Seng-zhao:  (China 413CE) "If we look for a thing through a name, we shall find that there is no actuality in that thing which would correspond to the name. If we look for the name through a thing, we shall find that the name is not capable of helping us to discover a thing.... As name and actuality do not correspond to each other, where do the myriad things exist?"  and  "Those things which find their genesis in the mind; [those things] which originate in the mind arise from things. That region of affirmation and negation is a place of illusion."  

    Adi Berkeley is a well known philosopher/ mathematician online. He asks provocative questions that send lesser beings into a spin trying to figure out what the heck he is all about.  It is his own highly advanced version of "Stump the Chump".  ;)

  4. I don't care if it is Shankracharya or Adi Berleley but the statement is false.

  5. True.  See "What the Bleep, down the rabbit hole"

    Peace.

  6. I don't suggest the use of the word 'illusion', it suggests that the everything is false, since the words 'illusion' has the connotation of falsehood. I think the word 'idea' is better. It also agrees with the fact that Berkeley is called an 'idealist', one who believes that all things, material objects included, do not exist apart from their human conception, thus the word 'idea'.

    In fact, my use of the word 'exist' would earn me a lot of criticism from realists. Idealists and realists use the word 'exist' in greatly different ways. For realists, objects that exist are objects that are in the world of 'reality', that is why we call them realists. For idealists, when an object exists, they mean that it is in the world of 'ideas' (not the Platonic 'Idea', of course).

  7. what does the question mean? in my opinion its meaningless..understad language

  8. Wasn't the concept of the rabbit hole about the person noticing something and once he noticed it, then it became his reality.

    We go through life either not noticing or not recognising what we have noticed.

    We are all actors in the biggest soap opera imaginable.

  9. Assume that everything is an illusion.

    Consciousness of the illusions is then an illusion belonging to what?

    The consciousness that perceives illusions is an existent. Conscious existents cannot be an illusion, or an illusion would be having an illusion. An illusion can not have an illusion; the first illusion is thus necessarily not an illusion.

    BUT--an easier way to say the same thing is this:

    If an illusion exists, all is not an illusion, because it negates "Nothing exists."

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