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Now that the military have stealth blimps and drones - Why continue this UFO denial?

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There are now a whole host of technology able to produce UFO effects, from jet powered helium ships coasting fast and low the size of a house, to the aurora pulse jet flying 3x the speed of sound. Surveilance drones that hover and change shape, and minature quads programmed to fly in formation as an autonomous swarm.

Why bother to deny that these things are human creations?

We know it, THEY surely know it, so why the pretence ?

The only reason I can think of is to claim we are under attack by aliens in a false-flag operation. Along with the media, this will produce the panic of "war of the words" proportion, which will lead to martial law, mass round up, and probably mass exterminations.

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  1. Please excuse my spelling.  But I saw something on History Channle that I didn't know was any realer than my father's old tails.  Chuck Yegar...the man who broke the sound berrier.  Edwards Airforce Base.  The dry lake beds owned by cevilians in that Majovy Desart.  My father told me about the burning down of the hotel and bar there.  The History Channle confermed his story from many years ago.

    My father told us about a strange insodent that happened there (and yet he was not an important part of all that, he was only a Mad Scientist from the 40's)

    The History Channle said that a chalange had been made by the woman who own Edwards before NASA.  She challanged Chuck Yager and another pilot to breaking the sound berrier for a steak dinner.

    After this was accomplished...and everyone was at the bar...SOMEONE with a different power, told all of them to keep quiet.  Then mysterously, SHE is burned out.

    WHO is that someone who tells us...shut up!  What information do "They" think needs to be quiet?  How is it secret when in 1986 I knew about the Stelth and the Giant Wing.  As an Avionics Technician and Remote Viewer for the Army...that idea of secretsy is void.

    ITS US.  We put that tag onto all things new.  However, there are lights of unknown origen, which have nothing to do with being human.  Those are the ones we should figure into our sence of reality today.  There are some objects out there that are not man made.


  2. If I understand your point.The government is creating an alien scenario to control,reduce and enslave the population.Technological advancements are designed for that end?Will this happen in the US or the world?

    I get it,the old barbarians at the gate routine taken to it's grandest scale.

    First I don't know that they deny these new ships.I think it's more they deflect comment on them.They are top secret.Remember when Jimmy Carter let out the plans for stealth airplanes.It was not good.

    They do deny the Roswell aliens that type of thing.We have to consider that maybe it's the truth.

    Nobody distrusts the government more then me.I agree if you tell a lie often enough folks will believe it.No matter how outrageous it is.

    I just don't see any need to create one so contrived and difficult.Our esteemed leaders can get us where they want with much simpler lies and schemes.They don't need Alien invasions when they can simply promise to give us stuff.Empty promises so far have worked very well for them.When they do need a new barbarian at our gate.They can find one right here on Earth.

  3. "There are now a whole host of technology able to produce UFO effects, from jet powered helium ships coasting fast and low the size of a house, to the aurora pulse jet flying 3x the speed of sound. Surveilance [sic] drones that hover and change shape, and minature quads programmed to fly in formation as an autonomous swarm."

    Source please.

    "The only reason I can think of is to claim we are under attack by aliens in a false-flag operation. Along with the media, this will produce the panic of 'war of the words' proportion, which will lead to martial law, mass round up, and probably mass exterminations."

    Whom should I contact when this doesn't actually happen?

  4. This is a topic far more complicated than that... As someone who has someone very close to them who has worked for many in the Defense industry, I can assure you that we have things (and have had things) FAR stranger than pulse jets and the "jet powered helium blimps" (I assume you are talking about the supposed TR3B, in which case it is about the size of 2 football fields and allegedly runs on some kind of mercury based plasma core, which is why it was silent -a jet engine wouldn't be).

    Now, as far as pulse jets go 3x the speed of sound isn't all that difficult, the SR-71 does a little over 3.3x the speed of sound.

    But these absolutely pale in comparison to what we really have. Unfortunately I won't say what some of these things are as I can't betray this person's trust (I don't know if they told me in confidence or not). But I can offer some decent places to start:

    A very good documentary

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

    I also highly, highly recommend checking out some of NASA's own footage, most of it from the STS missions. All I'll say about those is that it doesn't make any sense for us to fire at our own UFO's (or if they were our own they would be called IFO's) as they speed off into deep space!

    If you intend on seriously seeking out these answers, I highly suggest researching much more. Hope this was of *some* value.

  5. It seems to me like you're taking half truths, general distrust and rumors and from that creating a scenario that can't be anything more than a flight of fancy. This places your post in the category of conspiracy theory,

    Before you do this I suggest that you check out actual facts and from these construct a better scenario, lest the rather fanciful scenario become justification for selection bias in your future fact collection

  6. I don't know why they deny these things.

    Perhaps to keep this technology in the country?  Probably don't want to share it with other countries so theirs could become the most advanced in technology when it comes time for war.

    That's what I think but maybe there is another reason.

  7. well idk man i was watching this thing on the discovery channel and they might be out there its a strange thing , there can be aliens in my opinion they can be out there but the government is weaselly and never tells the truth , so the public may never ever know


  8. the  government  and the military  are  both  run  by  beings  that are not  from  here!!!..  thats  why!!

  9. "The only reason I can think of is to claim we are under attack by aliens in a false-flag operation. Along with the media, this will produce the panic of "war of the words" proportion, which will lead to martial law, mass round up, and probably mass exterminations."

    This is a possibility.

    Another possibility is if all the UFOs are indeed man made, the technology is held by a very select few, which there is nothing to stop the select few from temporarily leaving the planet and wiping out the human species to start over from scratch for near absolute control.

    Which alternative would you prefer?

    I've seen two UFOs, which if they are man made, then we can travel to other planets very easily. I knew an hour before hand when both would appear, which helps give confirmation of telepathy or premonitions or both. I mostly have premonitions through dreams, but I can also guess dice etc. with a high accuracy if I focus because colors, shapes, and dots appear in my head.

    Anyways, I would say a huge portion of UFOs are man made. You forget that all throughout history UFO sightings have been reported too, which some seem very familiar to today's sightings.

  10. Hiya Mr P.

    I agree almost entirely with you. Most sightings occur near US and UK air-force bases. The other countries that report frequent sightings are countries the US has an interest in. I think the 'black triangles' are prototype spy planes. They are seen near US/UK bases because where else would they be flown from? The rash of sightings in Mexico is then understandable because it's on the doorstep of the US.

    Instead of people thinking ET/UFOs are visiting US bases, it's more likely that they are next gen craft leaving the bases.Conventional craft have been scrambled to intercept them. The pilots probably have no idea (secret aircraft and plausible denial etc) what they are chasing. How else can they test the abilities of these new craft unless they use 'real' scenarios? It seems reasonable to me.

    The only reason I don't wholly agree with you? I saw a UFO with friends a few years ago. It crossed horizon to horizon, zig zag, in about three or four seconds. That's like a hundred miles a second!  

  11. I think it's illogical to assume that with as many galaxies as there are out there that we are the only planet with life on it. Though I do agree that probably a good percentage of UFO sightings are false.  

  12. "The only reason I can think of (is to) produce the panic of war of the worlds', which will lead to martial law, mass round up and mass exterminations..."

    If that's the only reason you can imagine that the US government might want to develop high-technology weapons and keep them secret is to round up and exterminate our own citizens, then I feel sorry for you.

    Here's an alternative theory.  The government develops jets and drones and other secret weapons because we want to use them to fight terrorists and rogue governments that are our enemies.  We keep such technology secret to prevent enemy governments from stealing the specifications and producing similar weapons to use on our own soldiers.

    You can agree or disagree with US military action abroad, but you surely can't deny the logic behind military secrecy.

  13. The military doesn't want everything to be known about all its operations.

    If you are alluding to the idea that all UFO are from earth you would be incorrect. Those are the UFOs the government and the media are in denial over.

    May 8th this year the Catholic Church announced that it was OK to believe in aliens. The tide is turning and the skeptics will get their just rewards.

  14. Assuming your argument is correct and all UFO incidents are of government making the answer would be to avoid accountability, revolution, and huge pay outs.

    Can you imagine the compensation that Betty & Barney Hill (or their estate) as well as Travis Walton are entitled to if your theory is correct?

    Can you imagine the public outcry and demand for actions, the voted out politicians, the endless Senate and House hearings, possible criminal convictions, plus full disclosure bringing outrage from all the countries the US flies over and spies on in blatant violation of US and international law as well as treaties supposedly made in good faith.

    Would the military try a coup when the congress refused to approve another cent in funding until disclosure was forthcoming?

    Or perhaps nothing would change as people sat at home and shrugged and continued not to participate while the military continued to take away democracy just like people do now.

    Psiexploration

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