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Ok, Pro Choicers, esp women: In China, it is well known that families and the gov abort females because they ?

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have little value in that culture. So is this a legal issue, a moral concern, or do you just throw your hands up and say "that's what pro choice is all about"?

Do you feel, as a female, that this is ok because it's just a freedom issue? Should not the unborn female have some right?

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  1. They are all going to starve unless they get some cats with fruit hats over there to save them.


  2. I don't agree with how they run their country.  But it is their country, and they will do what they feel is necessary.  If they do anything to heinous, the world will intervene.

  3. I think it's a shame when social stigma takes over, but it is still a woman's right to choose. Bottom line.  

  4. Enforced abortion is, by definition, not a choice. I fail to see the parallels.

  5. even by the pro-choicers...that dont consider it a life until some period of time... yet if we can tell that it is female...then that has to be considered life.....It must be a moral issue.

  6. abortion is wrong there's no way you can justify it  

  7. China have a law limiting families to one child, and for cultural reasons boys are preferred generally. In the West, families aren't restricted to one child, so cultural considerations, if they exist, are not at such a premium. So your inferences aren't valid.

    Women should be at the top of the decision-making process if abortion is considered, along with medical advice and guidance.

  8. a whole society deciding females are less worthy than males is not the same as individuals within soceity using their discretion and freedom to choose whats right for their own lives be it a male or female they are expecting

    its no where near comparable

  9. You are wrong on several points.

    The view that females have no value is incorrect. The yin/yang philosophy is half female, half male. Females in China don't have to change their last names when they get married. Furthermore, China has had several female rulers in the past. Do we even have a female president yet?

    Yes, they place more emphasis on males because they are patriarchal...but that's true for every nation on earth.

    The abortion of babies in families in China is mostly due to socio-economic reasons. Females can't help the farmers work the land or plow the fields, so the family might end up starving to death.

    Also, it's not pro-choice because it's a government implemented "one child policy." It was implemented decades ago because overpopulation

    almost led the country to the verge of famine and starvation.

    Abortion in China is totally different from abortion in the US or Europe.

  10. NO, you only get those when you are born. A fetus is just a fetus till its born, then it becomes a baby. Then they may leave it in the "dying rooms."

  11. If you believe that abortion of females in China is primarily a women's pro choice based decision, then you do not understand the dynamics that drive this in China.

  12. I'm not a female, but I am pro-choice.  China has determined as a society that abortion is appropriate in given circumstances based on that society's values and priorities.  Since we live in a different society, we have different values, which emphasize personal freedom over governmental restrictions.

    If in China abortions are forced upon women because they don't want female babies, then that is not really about "freedom," since the women aren't choosing to have the abortion at all.  Whether that is acceptable behavior by the government or the families (who do choose to have abortions in China) is purely a matter of subjective opinion.  I am pro-choice, and I don't care if women in America choose to have abortions, since it is their right.  Likewise, I also don't care if women in China choose to have abortions, or even if the government there forces women to do so.

  13. There is no "choice" issue here because of the one child policy and the patriarchal society which values male children above females. In fact many Chinese women are forced to have abortions because they already have one child. These women are not having abortions because they are pursuing "freedom" Forcing a woman to have a child is wrong; forcing a woman to have an abortion is also wrong. Which bit of the concept of choice are you struggling with?

  14. Abortion is wrong no matter what  the case.  

  15. China is not pro-choice.

    They routinely sterilize women who have more than one child or abort their fetuses.

    Pro - choice is the ability to have an abortion or to carry a pregnancy to term, depending on the choice of the pregnant woman.


  16. Plain and simple. If the government is FORCING women who do not WANT abortions to receive them due to the fetus being of a female gender, then yes, this is a legal issue.

    If the woman WANTS to abort the fetus, it is her own business, and none of your concern, regardless of the reasoning behind it. A woman's body is her own, and she has the right to say what goes on concerning her body. This includes incubating a fetus for nine months.

    As a female, of course I think this is alright, just as it would have been alright if my mother had aborted me. It was her body to do with as she wished.  

  17. This is less a problem with pro-choice and more a problem with Chinese culture and laws.

  18. I think that society is screwed up in that sense, and more value should be placed upon women, thus removing the desire to abort female babies in china...

    However, as the situation stands in my opinion better a fetus terminated than a new born baby neglected, born into a life unloved and in some cases outright murdered due to their gender.

  19. A woman has the right to choose.

  20. no way

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