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Ok heres the deal say you have a almost 5 year old. The child has seen multiple psychologist and been diagnosed with adhd and odd. For those who do not know odd is oppositional deficiency disorder. Say this child was put on a medicine fda approved for Adhd its not ridilin its called Detroamphetamine. This child has been to a play therapist for going on 2 years. The child has taken the meds seen psychologist numerous times. Nothing seems to work. The child is disciplined with time outs and naughty chair. Nothing seems to work. It is believed that the child was mistakingly labeled adhd and has something more serious that is not really known yet in children. The mother and father both have bipolar disorder. The child carries a lot of traits of child hood bipolar. The child is destructive, very temperamental, unpredictable like a tornado. The child knows the difference between right and wrong acts out on purpose. The child shows no remorse. Please wait more to come.

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  1. A change in meds may be what is needed. Not all meds suit all kids and you have to trial them to see which suits the child best. The trouble is also that ADHD medication can make ODD worse. A change in medications is probably worth a try at this ppoint and I have put in a link to a book that is designed for kids like this. Friends have used it with success (there kids have ADHD and one ODD)


  2. Have any of your medical professionals considers Aspergers??

    I have to say, if you are using all these discplines consistently and are still at a dead end, then your medical professionals should be helping you out with ideas.

    Detroamphetamine is a medicinal form of speed - if your child is still behaving in a hyperactive way then I'd say this medication is making it worse not better.

    Have you had allergy tests done on your child?  This may be food allergies - I know it sounds silly, but I have known a couple of children who were WAY out of control, and when they had their diets changed it was like turning a switch on!  totally different children.

    Apart from that I'm all out of ideas!  I really do wish you luck and hope that you find some answers.

  3. It could honestly be any number of things.  ADHD, bipolar, autism, even the medication.  If it is bipolar does the detroamphetamine work for that as well or is it specifically formulated for ADHD?  As for some some other discipline efforts that could work, a psychologist I know recommended things such as washing walls, base boards,etc.  I would also check out some of those websites that I saw in another reply.  They could be a great help. I also wonder if maybe online or the local library could give you access to the psychological manual.  There may be a newer version but the last one I saw was the DSM-IV, although I'm certain the psychologist has a copy.  This book provides a good guideline for what "symptoms" go along with what disorders. Good Luck.

  4. First of all, given that both parents are bipolar, chances are, much of this is because the child is also bipolar.  It shouldn't take rocket science to figure that out, but at most of the links, there are comments that doctors just ignore the parental information about bipolar in the family.  Unfortunately, most bipolar medications are not approved for children.  Heck, they aren't even all that effective for adults (my sister is bipolar).

    My sister's problems didn't become severe until she was in college, although she had indications of it earlier.  Contact your state's children's hospital and talk to the psychiatric dept.  If you get no direction there,

  5. First of all Bipolar Disorder is very rare in children that young....I was told this by countless specialist, as I am bipolar. I doubt this child is bipolar, I didn`t really become symptomatic until my late teens. As far as his oppositional behaviour is concern, has he ever been abused or taken away from his primary caregiver?? Has he been neglected?Has he been adopted, or spent some time in foster care?? He sounds like a RAD child to me. He might have an attachment disorder. Look it up, ( google it). This boys behaviours sounds a lot like these.

  6. Spare the rod ,spoil the child...tell the parents to spank the child... on the butt only ...any thing else is child abuse.

  7. ok first off...ODD is oppositional defiant disorder

    If I was in this situation I would contact the local Child Protective Service office... they have services to offer families who are struggling to meet the needs of a child.  They will not take the child from you.  They will help you connect with the needed services.  I would also discuss this with his prescribing psychiatrist and his pediatrician.  Since he is 5 I'm going to assume he will be starting school this year?  I would be proactive and call the school and make them aware of the situation so that you can get him tested as soon as possible for special education services for his behavior.  

    Good Luck that is a tough situation to be in.  I would continue with the structure and follow through with  punishments consistently.  It may take years but eventually he will begin to respond to it.

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