Okay, my theory and the big bang theory?

Question

right, i could never understand that no mater how many zeros you had you would still have nothing, even if you got millions and millions of zeros it would all equal nothing, and nobody could understand how i couldn't get over that, but wait! the big bang theory fits in with my all the zeroes thinking so im thinking, hey,im making sense for once, well, erm, do you get what i'm saying?

Answer 1

"I have a theory"

thats where things went wrong for you.

you don't have a theory, a theory is an hypothesis supported by data and review.

what you have is more akin to when some drunk guy in a bar says "You know what I think they should do with all the lawyers?"

yeah... like that.

Answer 2

I don't know what you mean by all the zeros, but the big bang theory, and it is just a theory cause there's a lot of unanswered questions, but anyway, the big bang is that the universe was created from a singularity and just exploded with a "big bang", but it couldn't have been "big", due to the fact that everything began as a singularity, which is very, very small.  And there is no atmosphere in space, no air, so therefore, there's nothing for noise to be carried away from the place where it supposedly occurred.  

Therefore, the "big bang" is the aftermath of whatever happened.  And no one seems to know what happened before that----

Answer 3

Nil, nil, the Big Bang Theory is just that theory.

When nothing is there, to you that is, something is, but what?

We do not have the understanding to comprehend all that happens out there.

So with that in mind forget it, concentrate on life you know,

or become a theorist like everyone else and worry endlessly.

Answer 4

I think I understand what you mean and I hope you don't stop thinking "outside the box"  :) BUT I think you might be a wee bit confused about the Big Bang theory. That's understandable because people don't always explain it well. Even the name is misleading....nothing "banged", nothing "exploded", it was an expansion of ONE "thing", big difference when you think about it. But the name sticks. Astronomy is like that. So darned traditional in it's terms that it's VERY confusing for anyone just learning.

My understanding of it is that "everything "exploded" from "nothing" is WRONG.

Try this: Everything expanded from ONE (we even call it a SINGULAR-ity) From ONE came many. Numbers other than one make it possible for time/space to BE and for many other things to BE in it.

Zero, in math is not actually a number, it's called "a place holder. So, if you had a bunch of zeros you WOULD have a bunch of places for numbers to BE but they would be empty;) This might actually tie in with "probability" theory come to think of it. Zeros are probabilities? hummmm.

I don't mean to sound like a math whiz, I'm very far from that, but I'm pretty sure I got this down.

But don't get discouraged, the fact that you seem to be fascinated with Math concepts means you're thinking, it's good to see.

Answer 5

You are dealing with something that is hard to grasp.  When you stand on the earth your weight results from the earth's gravitational attraction for you.  If the earth could shrink (without losing mass) you would be much closer to the earth's center of mass and gravity and would weigh far more than at the present surface.  In a black hole all matter has contracted to a single point (singularity) perhaps the size of the period ending this sentence but it still has the same mass of the original contracting star and attracts other stars and planets just as it did before contraction.  But you can get extremely close to the singularity and your weight increases without limit.  The Big Bang originated from a (similar?) singularity having enormous mass and gravitational attraction.

Answer 6

A virtual particle is a zero that breaks into a +1 and a -1 particle, then it instantly annihilates . . . sometimes.

Now figure from there and you have your answer.

Answer 7

I would answer your question if I knew what on earth you were on about.

Answer 8

so, what's your question?

Answer 9

I hear you loud and clear...

Answer 10

wow! have you any more!

Answer 11

your honours degree is in the post!

Answer 12

i guess it kinda makes a little sense

Answer 13

Actually, your analogy is closer to calculus (differentials and integration) than to cosmology (Big Bang).

When they developed differential calculus, Newton and Leibniz both tried to find the rate of change in a function with an "infinitesimal" change in the variable.

By adding all these infinitesimal changes, you get the actual change.

For example, if the function is f(x) = x^2  (x squared = x multiplied by itself)

We all know that at x=0, then f(0) = 0, and at x=1, f(1) = 1

However, how fast does it change in between.

The idea is to get the variable (x) changing as little as possible.  How little?  Well if the width of the change is exactly 0, then the change must be zero, so 0 is not big enough.

What is the next smallest fraction above 0?

It does not matter how small you try to make the fraction (let's say 1/1,000,000) there can always be another fraction that is smaller (1/2,000,000 is only half the size).

You could write 0.0000 with as many zeros as you want.  As you already know (because you already say that in your question), as long as you put ONLY zeros, then the number is the same as exactly zero.

However, as soon as you put another digit, somebody else could come along and make that number ten times smaller just by inserting another zero inside your fraction.

This problem was actually tackled by mathematicians who thought they had an answer.

In nature, regardless of what you consider, there is always a smallest measure below which you can't go.  Even though he is not he one who actually worked them out, they are all called in honor of Max Planck.

Thus we have a Planck Time (the smallest time unit that can mean anything in physics -- very small but NOT zero), a Planck distance, even a Planck temperature (when the universe's age was equal to the Planck Time, its temperature was the Planck temperature -- a temperature so hot that every single point of the universe would have been a black hole, just from the energy density.

So, mathematicians imagined a Planck Number, so small (yet not zero) that it could serve as the "infinitesimal" unit in calculus.

All other Planck units have something that makes them the limit in nature.  For example, a distance smaller than a Planck Distance cannot be measured (according to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle: even if you could use the entire energy of the universe, you could not get a photon short enough to measure smaller lengths).

There is no such limit in mathematics.  Any number proposed as a Planck Number can be divided... and the new number still makes sense.

So it appears that lining up an infinite chain of zeros will NOT finally give something out of nothing.

Answer 14

either that ridiculous hat is too tight or your curls are too tight.  in any case you make no sense

Answer 15

The Big Bang theory starts off with there being something, so I don't know what you are getting at. The Big Bang doesn't show how something came from nothing, it's just a theory of what happened to that something once it existed.

ADDITIONAL: What you might want is to show that there is the same amount of negative matter as there is positive matter in the Universe, or something along those lines. Since they would cancel each other out when added together, then it could be said that there is actually nothing. And since the theory is that most matter in the Universe consists of dark matter, then perhaps enough of that is negative matter to make that assumption work. Then work something out from that.

Also use the premise that the Universe is the totality of existence.

As it is, the Big Bang theory basically suggests that the whole of the mass/energy of the Universe was in a super dense form and then exploded outward due to some stimuli.

Answer 16

What.

Answer 17

Sorry, I don't get what you're saying. Not only that, but you also haven't actually asked any question. How do the zeros fit in with the Big Bang?

Answer 18

Here's my suggestion.  Don't worry about the Big Bang.  It took place almost 14 billion years ago.  That is a very long while.  No one really know what caused it, Only cosmologists really care.  You are not a cosmologist.  You don't have to care.  So don't.  

Just repeat after me:  It doesn't really matter.  It doesn't really matter.  It doesn't really matter.  Repeat that a hundred times.  See how much better you feel?  No more crazed rambling about zeros.  People around you will quit snickering.

Answer 19

huh?

Answer 20

when they say the galaxies are getting farther apart (except for ours and andro ) but not they but the nothingness(space) between them is growing therefore the universe is expanding by the increase of nothing and that nothing is also making it speed up. sounds just like your theory to me! but i have not been in a physics class so i can believe what i choose. the down side is i'm very sceptical and it is easier to just follow. you get A's when you put the answers they give you.

Answer 21

I'm glad you explained that, everything is so much clearer now.