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My best friend recently lost her younger brother, he committed suicide in June of this year. Obviously the pain is still fresh and she and her family are still trying to move on with their lives. Her family has never lost a loved one, especially like this. (He was run over by the train) Well, I am really worried about my friend. I've watched a once vibrant, creative, and loving young lady vanish, and in turn, she's more quiet, depressed, and seemingly lonely than I've ever seen her and I've been knowing her since we were about 8 years old. It's as though her entire world has come crashing down on her and her support system is no where to be found. The thing that really bothers me about this situation is that the church that she worships at didn't do or say anything to her. (I told her a long time ago that she'd outgrown this church, but she stayed for personal reasons I guess). She's been a faithful member of this church for almost 10 years. The members know her as well as her family. Yet and still, no support was given. My issue is that the pastor didn't offer this young lady any words of encouragement. I watched as she sat in his office with tears in her eyes and all he said to her was "keep doing what you know to do." then he walked away as if that was suppose to sustain her. I understand that we aren't to look to man for things, but rather to God; this is her church "family" as they like to call themselves. The least they could have done was give this woman some tangible support, let her know that they are here for her if she needs them. The part that really aggitated my spirit was when two members from the pastoral staff came to her home (this happened a week or so after her brother passed and it only happened because someone pointed out to them that it was a shame that no one went by the house to check on her and her family) they spoke with my friend and her parents and told my friend to go to the church and fill out an application so that the church could pay other bills so that her parents would have extra funds for the burial and whatever else they needed. My friend did exactly as she was told but these people denied her application simply because her parents are not members of their church. To me, that doesn't make any sense. They came to this young lady, told her what to do, knowing that she is the only one in her household that fellowships at that church, then had the audacity to deny her. For what? Because her parents don't attend the church? That's odd to me seeing as how they are always saying that they are family and family looks out for one another no matter what. She simply did what she was told. Anyway, she doesn't seem to take issue with that, so I don't mention it to her. I'm worried about her though, these last few weeks have been so hard on her, I think she feels like, other than her family, she has no one she can lean on, no one she can confide in, no one she can talk to. I don't know what else to do, I can't even get in touch with her, she doesn't answer her phone, return e-mails, faxes, or anything. I pray for her, but sometimes I feel like I should do more than just pray. I haven't seen her in a week, the times I do see her, she looks depressed and deeply troubled. She won't ever admit to it, but I think that her church family hurt her, which in my opinion, it is okay for her to feel that way but I know she knows that sometimes, people will fail us and that's why she doesn't make it a big deal. I think she just expected them to react a different way, heck, I even expected them to react differently than what they did. Is there any advice you can give me on dealing with her in this situation? This hurts me as she is more than just a friend to me but a sister, my sister. She's always been there for me and I just want to return the kindness. I would really appreciate your help. Thank you all and have a great morning!

Respectfully,

Miss Lisa

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  1. This is too much for me to read. in a nutshell ! - i hope you have a nice life.


  2. Dear Lisa, It is a hard sitation, and although your friend is obviously depressed, I'd  say, she is lucky to have a friend like you. Talk to her, go to her house, don't phone, fax, e-mail, go there and hug her  and just tell her how much you love her, and that you are ready to listen to her if she wants to talk and ready to share silence if that's what she prefers that and that you are on her side and that she can lean on you if she wants. You probably think she knows it just the same, Doesn't matter.Tell her that you love her as you would love your sister. Ask her to share some time with you every day, and that if she doesn't want to speak, she doesn't have to, just hold her hand, or make a cup of tea and stay beside her. Losing a loved one is hard but suicide is worse, You keep asking yourself ' Was there anything I could do but did not. ', Was there anything that I could have seen but  I missed.Just be there for her. Maybe she has not been able to cry yet and this is worse. Her whole family may be in need of a therapist now. When she cools down a little, you can ask her to go to one. Also a little time later, ( not now), I will advise a book. I understand you are good Christians, this book is written by a Rabbi, but still it is a good book. 'When Bad Things Happen to Good People' by Rabbi Harold Kushner. Respects and condoloscenses for your friend.Amada

  3. I feel so sorry rigth cause I would that same reaction if my only brother just did that. She needs time to heal and greive. Not surprised about the church. When my grandma died, inwardly I thought I died with her. stop calling and come over to give a shoulder to lean on. My church really didn't help much but at least they showed up. I been at mine for 15 years so she shouldn't let that discourage her. Its still fresh and recent and she will still be in the dumps. Just continue to pray for her and let her you have her back. She'll move on but takes a while to get over it.

  4. I agree,

    it's not that she doesn't want to talk to you, but she probably doesn't have the words or the strength to.  If you lived far away, emailing or writing a letter would be the best option, but a phonecall still makes her feel as if she's cared about.

    It sounds like you live close by though, so you should really just stop by, bring some home baked treats or a home cooked meal, and ask if you can sit with her for a while.  Do what the previous poster said and tell her that she doesn't need to talk, you just want her to know that you love her and are there for her.  If she opens up, be supportive, if not, be supportive.  If she doesn't want to see you she will still appreciate and understand the effort put into making something for her.

    I think YOU should find a different pastor, tell him about her situation, ask if there is any advice he would give her, and maybe ask if you can bring her by, or if he would visit her.  Really, her own church dropped the ball on this, and her pastor, no offense, sounds like he is not in the least bit helpful.  

    Yes, she needs to continue doing what she knows how to do. But, she also needs to remember the good times she had with her brother, what he meant and still means to her.  This is something you can really help her with, and it may even get her back to her creative side.  Tell her about the good memories you had with him, try to make her laugh.  Maybe suggest that you two start to compile a tribute to him, photos, notes, school assignments, whatever.  This could be her way of making peace with the situation, while "doing things she knows how to do."  

    She probably feels abandoned right now, by her brother (RIP), her church, possibly her family, and even her friends.  You may feel like it's crossing a boundary to visit her, but that is probably what she is hoping for.  Someone to go out of their way and prove that life still goes on, and she is still important to you.  

    I have never personally dealt with suicide, and I'm sure there are a host of other issues here that I know nothing about.  But be there to support her, remind her of the good times she had with her brother, and slowly start to reintegrate her.  Maybe one night you show up with groceries and say "let's cook dinner for the family" (maybe ask her family first), and if she doesn't feel like it, than you do it on your own, maybe asking her to pass you the spices or show you where certain things are.  Maybe the next time you go with her to the park, for a walk, and nothing more...  

    sit with her, cry with her, mourn with her, let her know you care.  Understand that she will be like this for a long time, don't expect a sudden turn around, it could take years for her to fully recover.

    Good luck, God bless.

  5. This is a tough situation, but maybe you could ask her to have a day out with you and ask her to get things off of her chest.  You know that she is sad but she really needs to let it all out.  Try to go somewhere with her get all of her feelings out about the death the church, her parents, maybe you could be the one that will break her of her depression.  She needs a friend and you sound like the one who could be there for her.

  6. What you're feeling sounds like it can only be answered by the pastor of the church.  My advice to you is to make an appointment with him/her and tell him how you feel.  You do it with respect and prayer.  He has the responsibilty to keep what you say privite.  If you're not sure about it ask him up front.  Tell him what you want to discuss must be kept confrondental.  Believe me, if you ask God for the words needed to get the point accross, He will provide them.  I promise.  Do this soon.  Ask the pastor to make a visit to the family and more spicifically take her for a walk and talk to her as her pastor

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