Palomino x 2?

Question

Ok so my mare is Qh X Arab chestnut and she carries the dilute gene. Her dam is full QH registered and is a Palomino. ( Sire is a full bred Arab)

Can my mare then be registered also as a palomino?? She is currently registered as a part bred arab.

The Australian QH Assoc won't register her because she is only a part bred.

Answer 1

You should register her as a Palomino, it's called double resister.  My 1/2 QH-Arb. mare is only registered 1/2 Arabian and here in the US can't register her QH.

Answer 2

You mare does not carry the dilute gene.  A chestnut with a single dilute gene is a palomino.  If a chestnut base has two then it is a cremello.  The dam had one but did not pass it to your mare.  Therefore she chestnut not palomino.

The palomino registry is not a breed registry.  It is a color registry and requires the horses that are registered to be palomino.  It does not allow the offspring of palominoes to be registered unless they meet the color requirements.

And I am sorry but if she is chestnut that is it.  She can not carry the dilute gene.  If she does then she is a palomino.  If her papers are wrong then you can file for a change of color.

Even smokey blacks express the dilute gene.  They express it in the way they sun bleach.  They do so so badly that by the end of summer they often look like a dark buckskin.

Answer 3

You should be able to double-register her as a palomino; since you mentioned the Australian QH association, I found this site for you, the Australian Palomino Horse association.

Answer 4

If your mare is chestnut, then she can't "carry" the dilute gene.  If she has the dilute gene, then she would be palomino colored, not chestnut colored.  Just because her dam was palomino, doesn't mean that she passed the gene on to her offspring.  Simple way to affirm would be to send a hair sample off to UC Davis and have her color genetics tested.  If she does in fact have the dilute gene, then yes, she would be a palomino.  But if she's a true chestnut, it's pretty much a given that she doesn't have the gene.

Edit--So you're saying she's carrying two red genes to make her chestnut, and a dilute gene?  If that's the case, she really shouldn't be chestnut, unless we're talking about different terms for a color.  She should be a palomino.  Red/red with a dilute makes a palomino.  The only thing I've seen dilutes not express on was when it's a smokey black....which would be either black/black, or red/black, and a cream gene.  I would think if she's red/red with dilute, and she's not physically a palomino, she's quite unusual.  But, if you have the paperwork in your hand to show she's DNA verified to be that horse in question, and that she is in fact red/red with a dilute, then she should technically be eligible for registration, but the individual registry may have an inspection requirement that the horse has to have the physical characteristics in order to qualify.

Answer 5

Absolutely. I have two quarter horses that are double registered. Both are registered Quarter HOrses, and both are registered Palomino's. Contact the APHA and ask them to send you a registration form. You will have to submit pictures for proof. Here is the info.

http://www.pennpalomino.com/about/getreg...

Answer 6

I agree with the other posters.  A single dilute gives us either a palomino, buckskin or smokey black, depending upon the horse's origional base color.  A double dilute will give you a cremello or perlino.

Your chestnut mare is either a dark palomino with a dilute gene, or if she truely is a chestnut she cannot carry the dilute gene.  This is why only a single dilute (such as a palomino) or a double dilute (such as a cremello) canfoal a palomino.  You can breed all the chestnuts in the world to each other and not get a palomino.

Why do you think she has the dilute gene?  Have you had her tested at UC Davis?  Or do you just guess that because her dam was a palomino?

But that probably won't make a difference in this case anyhow.  As far as I know, the Palomino association registers horses with only a few criteria.  I believe at least one parent must be a registered light horse.  The second part is - they must fit the color criteria.  If your horse is chestnut, they are not going to put her into the registry.

But instead of asking us, why don't you go onto their website and check their criteria?  Most associations have a "contact us" area, so then get either their phone number of email address, and tell them your specific situation, and see what they say.  That will be a much better answer than all of the rest of us making educated guesses!

Answer 7

She Wont because she is a part breed try to register her the the arab assoc. I think they take in part breed horses.

If you email them saying she has a dilute gene and a reg. dam & sire full breed . they could.

It all depends.