Papers for an Appendix QH?

Question

I just bought an appendix quarterhorse from a sale. he'a a beatiful 16h bay gelding. The previous owner didn't have his registration papers and said he is an exrace horse. He has a lip tattoo that is unreadable. I was wondering if there is any way of getting his papers.

Answer 1

Your best bet is to call the Amercian Quarter Horse Association to see what you might be able to find out.

Here is the address and phone:

AQHA

1600 Quarter Horse Drive

Amarillo, TX

Phone: [phone]

Good luck.  With or without papers, I am sure you have a very nice horse!

Answer 2

Do they race Appendix? I've only ever heard of TB tattoos. Not saying they don't, just saying I've never heard of it.

If it was a TB, I would contact the jockey club, tell them as much of the tatoo as you are able to read and give them a description of the horse. They can usually narrow it down to a good match.

Answer 3

I doubt you'll be able to get papers since you aren't able to read the tattoo.  I have never heard of them tattooing QH or Appendix.

Luckily he's a gelding, so there really isn't a need for the papers, since he's unable to be bred.

Answer 4

IF you can find out what his registered name is, the AQHA can help you as their records cover appendix(half TB) and regular AQHA bloodlines......I would contact either the sale personnel or former owner and press them for additional information on this horse.....really nothing to go on until you can either determine what the number is on his lip or his registered name.....Good luck and I would think you should be able to turn something up....

EDIT:  http://www.aqha.com/association/registra...

A link to hardship registration....

*****Edit:  I did check AQHA pedigree records under "Romeo Racing Account" and there is no horse with that name....do you know what year your horse was born??

Registered horses are usually worth more, however, in this market, "tanked" nothing is bringing the money like it should.

Answer 5

well i don't really know if you can get his papers. but i would try. i really don't know to start looking. call the previous own and ask where did he come from. i mean like what race track for what city is the race track in. it might help you in your search. well good luck i hope i helped Sabrina

Answer 6

Unlike Jockey Club, AQHA's lip tatoo won't give you his registration number.

IF by chance you do get his registered name or number, then you're still going up against the last owner of the horse who had his papers, moving, dying or any other sort of circumstances where you can't get them to sign off on a transfer and a request for a new certificate (If they've lost the one they had.).

IF you are not planning on showing this horse in AQHA sanctioned shows, then papers aren't really necessary.

Answer 7

There are racing QH's and Appendix QH's, so its totally possible that he's registered with AQHA.  To get his papers in your name, you would have to contact the last owner on his papers, and somehow get them to sign a transfer to you for ownership.  You would have to become an AQHA memeber (the past owner would have to be one also....if they aren't you have to pay for them for a year so you can do the tranfer).  Then you pay the transfer fee.  I think membership is around $30/yr, and transfers are about the same.

Now, when I looked up "Romeo Racing Account" on AQHA.com (you have to be a member to do horse lookups), there was no horse by the name of Romeo Racing Account, RomeoS racing Account, Romeo Account, Romeo Racing, etc.  I tried a bunch of variations.  Its possible that you have a full TB, and not an appendix.  You can try contacting the Jockey Club, and see if they have a horse by that name registered, and they could give you color, birthday, and gender to help you figure it out.

Good luck, sorry I couldn't find anything!

Answer 8

If you have his origional racing name you can try to contact the association that he is registered with but they might not be able to do much. I hate bad tatoos.

Answer 9

There is appendix racing and an appendix registry. I was looking into buying an Appendix gelding who is currently being raced. You could try to get someone to attempt to read his tattoo who knows about them or search him on the internet.

Answer 10

unless you can read his tattoo there is no way to get papers for him, because who knows if hes the horse who belongs to the papers..

Try and read his lip tattoo, since that's your best bet.  Go in a dark area, get an LED flashlight, and a group of people.. lift his lip, use the light, and have different people look at different parts of the tattoo to make a whole.. it took me 3 weeks of looking at different parts to read my horses tattoo.

ALSO: they don't race appendix's necessarily, they race AQHA but a horse that is at least 50% AQHA and the other 50% an approved breed it can be reg. as AQHA, so now most of the racing Quarters re as much TB as they can be.

Answer 11

You cannot 'get his papers' - the previous owner of the horse must sign off on the horse's papers in order for the registry to acknowledge you as it's owner or for you to participate in breed sanctioned shows for rewards or points.

The horse would be registered through the AQHA - you can contact the AQHA, providing a picture of the tattoo (a combination of letters and numbers - perhaps even the horse's registry number) and the horse's registered name and sire and dam if you know it.  They can tell you what the last name is listed on the horse's legal registry.

I do have to tell you though - more times than not, if a seller tells you a horse is registered, but does not have it's papers they are not a reputable seller.  It doesn't cost much to get a copy of the horse's papers if you are the legal owner of the horse, so the excuse that they don't have them is often a trick to get you to pay more for a registered horse than you would for a grade (unregistered) horse, which is what you have if it isn't registered to you.

The easiest place for people to pass horses with un-soundnesses or ones that are ill-gotten is at a sale.  I personally know many people who will take a horse to a sale to off-load it because if it WERE a very valuable creature, complete with papers a single sale would generate a larger revenue.  

Only sales labeled as "registered" horse sales (only registered horses are sold) will guarantee a registered horse because the seller must provide legitimate papers for each horse in advance of the sale proving they are registered to the seller at time of sale.

IF/When you get the papers and determine you can register the horse in your name, you will pay MUCH more to register it if you are not a member of AQHA than if you are.   Membership costs about $35 for a one-year member ship and $70 for a 3-year membership.  Registration and transfer costs are about double for non-members vs. members.  I am an AQHA member and I feel membership offers many opportunities - especially if you think you may sell the horse in future.  You can sign up for pleasure items like "Ride America" in which you gain prizes for hours spent riding and the horse may gain points.  Also, IF you get the horse registered in your name, you can show it at AQHA breed shows or events and points are awarded for placements which increases the value of the horse.

If, however, you are not going to show or compete, it may not be worthwhile to track the horse's papers and try to register - if the horse is not registered to the person who sold it to you, you must track down the last person as listed and get that person to sign off on the papers for you.  Sometimes this requires you to do multiple transfers if the horse has changed hands multiple times, for which costs add up especially if you are not a member.

However, I would suggest you contact the AQHA at the very least to determine whether the horse was sold legally or not.  You may find the horse has changed hands illegally - if the horse was not sold legally, there should be notification in the AQHA database for it.

Also, if the seller told you where the horse raced - that might be a start to finding it's true name, etc.  A race horse must be tattooed for identification - this tattoo is checked before each and every race for verification the right horse is running.  His AQHA record will also include all race results, where he raced under who's ownership, etc.  Only certain tracks run Quarter Horses - primarily in the southwest - here in Michigan, there's only one track that runs QH in Mt. Pleasant.

I hope this helps - never, ever purchase a horse as registered without seeing it's papers, noting the name of the most recent owner and verifying their legitimacy.  All papers are now printed in full color, are coded to avoid duplication and carry a photo of the horse on them.  It is possible this horse was the subject of a board agreement gone bad or a training deal gone bad.  If a boarding facility had the horse, the owner didn't pay his board, and the boarder had a copy of the papers - he might be able to sell the horse as a registered horse, but unless he got the previous owner's signature as forfeiture, the horse cannot be shown as registered to a new owner.  The same is true of a training situation - some trainers require a copy of papers, then if the owner doesn't pay training fees, they forfeit the horse.

good luck!